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Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by erikpukinskis »

wruza wrote: post #197
loco5niner wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh hey, that's an idea. Why didn't we think of that earlier? Hey everybody lets just stop wars! Unfortunately, there will always be bad people and the only way to keep the innocent safe is for good people to step in and do difficult things.

And most good people concentrated in one set of countries and most bad people concentrated in another. It’s not grids of interests and interesting consequences, it’s just a distribution, man! All bad guys just happen to be over there hating you. Just because you’re better and know better. /s Surprisingly, most of the times you don’t get bites by simply not sticking your nose into every wasp nest. Still, doing that cr…

It’s not too hard to look up what kinda of childhood experiences create “bad people”. If your economy is 100x your target, you just pay to make those things happen more often. Wait 20 years and you have a bunch of bad people who hate us. Instant war. Billions to be made.

Pretty neat plan. Not sure how it ends.

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by paulcole »

int_handler wrote: post #162
TomMckenny wrote: post #82

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Perhaps if there are no instruments at hand that allow the young to act on such a disastrous suicidal impulse, at least some of these incidents could be prevented.

If you want to go that route, then you'll need to also remove the following instruments: * Ropes or any kind of cords that can be used for hanging * Blades of any kind (kitchen knives, scissors, box cutters, utility knives, etc.) * Anything that can be sharpened into a point that can puncture flesh * Any kind of chemical substance that can be deadly in sufficient quantities. * Any bodies of water where one can drown…

Your belief is common but misguided and incorrect. Many suicides are impulsive and if an easy method isn’t available the moment passes and no attempt is made.

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/30/9068255/suicide-impulsive-gun-...

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

int_handler wrote: post #162
TomMckenny wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps if there are no instruments at hand that allow the young to act on such a disastrous suicidal impulse, at least some of these incidents could be prevented.

If you want to go that route, then you'll need to also remove the following instruments: * Ropes or any kind of cords that can be used for hanging * Blades of any kind (kitchen knives, scissors, box cutters, utility knives, etc.) * Anything that can be sharpened into a point that can puncture flesh * Any kind of chemical substance that can be deadly in sufficient quantities. * Any bodies of water where one can drown…

Please don't be disingenuous. Not one of those promises an instant, painless lights-out the way a gun does.

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by erikpukinskis »

extralego wrote: post #184
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #6

> Much of Katie’s care is being paid for by the Department of Defense, because her youth and ballistic trauma make her a stand-in for wounded warriors. For the rest of her life, she’ll take powerful antirejection drugs with risks of their own, becoming a lifelong subject in the study of this still experimental surgery. Kudos to the DoD for doing this. The military historically has been the driver for advances in surg…

Even better would be not losing her face to begin with. This was preventable. Am I the only one to notice the events that led up to this? 1. Young girl moves multiple times due to her parent’s jobs, causing for stress and anxiety. 2. Girl finds stability and passion when she is granted an encouraging educational experience/environment at a private school where her parents both found contract jobs. 3. Parents both los…

Kind of a dreamy logic... you may be right.

But this kind of logic does not play well on the internet. Too easily picked apart. Needs to be concrete and ready for action.

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by [deleted] »

jdoliner wrote: post #10
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #6

> Much of Katie’s care is being paid for by the Department of Defense, because her youth and ballistic trauma make her a stand-in for wounded warriors. For the rest of her life, she’ll take powerful antirejection drugs with risks of their own, becoming a lifelong subject in the study of this still experimental surgery. Kudos to the DoD for doing this. The military historically has been the driver for advances in surg…

I think I remember reading that the DoD deserves credit for the entire field of plastic surgery, it was originally pioneered to help soldiers who had suffered disfigurement in combat. Only later did it become something for civilian augmentation.

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Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by paulcole »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #132
TomMckenny wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps if there are no instruments at hand that allow the young to act on such a disastrous suicidal impulse, at least some of these incidents could be prevented.

Ugh, are you trying to make this anti gun? There are so many ways to commit suicide it's hardly worth listing them here. If her family kept any pills in the bathroom it's likely she could have killed herself without leaving the room.

Rather than offer your thoughts on what may have happened, you might be interested in reading about actual research into suicide. The gist is that many suicides are impulsive when an easy method is available– most often a gun.

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/30/9068255/suicide-impulsive-gun-...

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by dang »

WC3w6pXxgGd wrote: post #14

It's wrong that assisted suicide is illegal. The only humane thing to do here is let her pass in peace.

In the context of this story, this comment is flamebait and breaks the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

You've unfortunately done that quite a lot. That will eventually get you banned here, so please read the rules and follow them from now on.

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by ars »

bodas wrote: post #141
labbyz wrote: post #137

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Make it opt-in. Then you give control away to the government deliberately. All it takes is a simple checkbox to say you want to be a part of it. It should be easier to receive mailing list spam, than it is to sign over your body, but opt-out makes it the other way around. Forgetting (or being unwilling to be forced) to sign a checkbox does not make one a willing participant, but an unwitting one. I understand this sa…

Bodies are a kind of use it or lose it deal. If you are buried, everything except your bones and teeth will be eaten. Organ donation is the least of your sovereignty problems.

The problem people have with organ donation is that it requires the donor to still be alive, but without brain activity, when they donate.

So it boils down to what do you consider death?

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by ars »

msallin wrote: post #161

Sorry to be that guy, but is there a text-only way to read this article? I just can't handle the images, they're haunting me.

Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, then copy into an editor that does not support images, only text.

Re: Katie's New Face

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Post by alex_young »

hueving wrote: post #219
jdietrich wrote: post #140

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The CIA were happy to supply hundreds of millions of dollars in arms to the mujahideen during the 1980s. The US chose to support Islamist insurgents in a proxy war against the Soviet Union and the Afghan people have paid the price for that decision ever since. Many of the American soldiers who died in the war in Afghanistan were killed with weapons that were bought and paid for by their own government. If you believe…

While this is true, it's whataboutism. You can be fixing a fuckup resulting from your government's previous actions, but it's still fixing it.

It sure seems to take a long time to fix things. Maybe fixing things at the point of a gun is the problem?
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