Why are we going as far as China? Facebook, Google, Apple, Twitter, among others need to come clean about their censorship of conservative voices right here in their back yard. All the folks who rallied for net neutrality are now cheering for the coordinated Big Tech assault on free speech. This needs to be talked about. Agree or disagree with the voices they are silencing (ie. Alex Jones), what is happening these days is a dangerous precedent.
Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
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Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#12Fact 1: Google only pulled search business out of China. adsense/adwords/maps works fine in China Fact 2: Search engines are more and more irrelevant these days. All interesting new content are either from Weibo or Wechat (or other closed garden) Fact 3: all reports about "Google returning to China" are based solely on the "Intercept report"[1] as source. I suggest everyone take a look at it. I think there's a huge m…
> Fact 1: Google only pulled search business out of China. adsense/adwords/maps works fine in China YouTube and Gmail also don't work in China, which are significant. They technically didn't leave China, however, because they never entered it. > Fact 2: Search engines are more and more irrelevant these days. All interesting new content are either from Weibo or Wechat (or other closed garden) I think you mean to quali…
> I think you mean to qualify that with in China?
I mean even if the "android app" came out how does it gain traction?
Does anybody actually use an "app" to search on mobile phones?
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#13Why are we going as far as China? Facebook, Google, Apple, Twitter, among others need to come clean about their censorship of conservative voices right here in their back yard. All the folks who rallied for net neutrality are now cheering for the coordinated Big Tech assault on free speech. This needs to be talked about. Agree or disagree with the voices they are silencing (ie. Alex Jones), what is happening these da…
It's no "assault on free speech". The right of free speech doesn't mean that private corporations have to be a platform for it.
The right embraced private corporations having "religious and moral rights" with the cake shop and Hobby Lobby cases. This is the other side of the coin.
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#14Why are we going as far as China? Facebook, Google, Apple, Twitter, among others need to come clean about their censorship of conservative voices right here in their back yard. All the folks who rallied for net neutrality are now cheering for the coordinated Big Tech assault on free speech. This needs to be talked about. Agree or disagree with the voices they are silencing (ie. Alex Jones), what is happening these da…
Facebook, Google, Apple and Twitter can't do business in America unless they engage in state-enforced censorship against conservatives, like they would in China against its political opponents, or are you drawing false equivalencies?
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#15Why are we going as far as China? Facebook, Google, Apple, Twitter, among others need to come clean about their censorship of conservative voices right here in their back yard. All the folks who rallied for net neutrality are now cheering for the coordinated Big Tech assault on free speech. This needs to be talked about. Agree or disagree with the voices they are silencing (ie. Alex Jones), what is happening these da…
It's no "assault on free speech". The right of free speech doesn't mean that private corporations have to be a platform for it. The right embraced private corporations having "religious and moral rights" with the cake shop and Hobby Lobby cases. This is the other side of the coin.
Exactly. And look at the uproar that the bakery caused with the constant mainstream news coverage back then. But now? Silence, and if not silence, total justification and questioning why Big Tech didn't do it sooner.
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#16Why are we going as far as China? Facebook, Google, Apple, Twitter, among others need to come clean about their censorship of conservative voices right here in their back yard. All the folks who rallied for net neutrality are now cheering for the coordinated Big Tech assault on free speech. This needs to be talked about. Agree or disagree with the voices they are silencing (ie. Alex Jones), what is happening these da…
Facebook, Google, Apple and Twitter can't do business in America unless they engage in state-enforced censorship against conservatives, like they would in China against its political opponents, or are you drawing false equivalencies?
Not drawing anything, just adding color in case people still pretend or truly believe these companies don't engage in censorship in the US.
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's no "assault on free speech". The right of free speech doesn't mean that private corporations have to be a platform for it. The right embraced private corporations having "religious and moral rights" with the cake shop and Hobby Lobby cases. This is the other side of the coin.
Exactly. And look at the uproar that the bakery caused with the constant mainstream news coverage back then. But now? Silence, and if not silence, total justification and questioning why Big Tech didn't do it sooner.
When did the mainstream right start openly embracing racist as thier people outside of the South? I could never see any former Republican President or leadership in the modern era support someone like Alex Jones.
Alex Jones podcast was not "banned" from Apple's platform. Apple never hosted either the media or the RSS metadata. Anyone who wants to listen to the podcast can go on Google do a search find the feed subscription and add to the podcast app.
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Changed "was banned" to "wasn't banned".
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. And look at the uproar that the bakery caused with the constant mainstream news coverage back then. But now? Silence, and if not silence, total justification and questioning why Big Tech didn't do it sooner.
When did the mainstream right start openly embracing racist as thier people outside of the South? I could never see any former Republican President or leadership in the modern era support someone like Alex Jones. Alex Jones podcast was not "banned" from Apple's platform. Apple never hosted either the media or the RSS metadata. Anyone who wants to listen to the podcast can go on Google do a search find the feed subscr…
That's not my point. I don't like or listen to the guy, but your reaction shows precisely why they chose him. Who is next? If they can take down someone as vocal as Alex Jones, they can take down anyone.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook, Google, Apple and Twitter can't do business in America unless they engage in state-enforced censorship against conservatives, like they would in China against its political opponents, or are you drawing false equivalencies?
Not drawing anything, just adding color in case people still pretend or truly believe these companies don't engage in censorship in the US.
You're not only acknowledging the false equivalencies, you're embracing them?
Were you upset when they spent years silently purging religious extremist content? That's been going on since at least 2011.
Re: Google Needs to Come Clean About Its Chinese Plans
#20It is simply not possible to both cooperate with the Chinese (or, to a lesser extent, any other) government against its citizens and remain transparent. Part of this type of cooperation includes a requirement by the government for opacity. This is easier for less-principled and/or more closed companies. You can only not-cooperate transparently (and even then, only sometimes).
The real problem is you can't have a we'll-publicly-disagree-but-do-it-anyways approach with China like you might elsewhere. There's a reason a CEO might make a public post disagreeing with the approach of one government yet will forever remain mum concerning another.
Just stop requiring growth at all costs, chalk up the China (and military) market as a loss, and continue operating at your massively profitable status quo. It may seem like it's a double standard when other companies have access to those markets sans media backlash, but just recognize the differences are known out here in the masses.