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$4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by lsc »

ShabbyDoo wrote: post #6

What are the use cases for this device which are not covered by either (1) an EC2 "micro" instance ($82 up front + $0.007/hour * 3 years * 365 days * 24 hours/day == $7.38/month) or (2) a small form factor server in my home? If we ignore the toy/coolness factor of having such a small form factor device, are there any compelling use cases? I can't think of any.

a sheevaplug with it's own sata disk is probably going to have less CPU than the amazon 'micro' (at least if their setup is anything like mine, which it likely is.) but disk shares very poorly. If the sheevaplug comes with it's own sata disk, it will kill any shared disk solution as far as disk performance goes. (on the other hand, it's not RAID, which can be pretty bad.)

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by ciupicri »

lambda wrote: post #25

I like the effort they go through in the comment thread to discuss the performance, power draw, etc. compared to a VPS. For instance, a VPS appears to draw 56 watts per user, while the SheevaPlug plus disk at high load draw only 20 watts; a pretty nice power savings. From the site http://pluggr.info/#ps "Please note that TonidoPlugs installed on our network have the torrent functionality disabled, as it is a violatio…

AUP = Acceptable use policy? I'm beginning to hate acronyms from the bottom of my heart.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by jacquesm »

stcredzero wrote: post #13
pyre wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Issues with that: * 2G or 3G wireless would be attached to someone's account (i.e. associated with a person). * The authorities could just access the contents of the drive to see what is on it. (though this would obviously mean infiltrating the darknet) It would probably be easier to setup something like this hooked into the internet at some private business. Stick it under a desk or above the ceiling tiles and just…

2G or 3G wireless would be attached to someone's account (i.e. associated with a person). Easily solvable with shills or shell corporations. Think about the options of the authorities in the US. Police would have to get a search warrant. Which address are they going to get a search warrant for? The shill/shell company might have nothing to do with the whole thing other than maintaining the 3G accounts. The authoritie…

Shell companies will have people on the board as well. If it was that easy to have a corporate cover for a an illegal business there would be many more than there are today.

Drug trade and other illegal stuff is 'cash only' for a reason, you don't want a paper trail.

And places that hand out IP numbers to unknown MAC addresses should get a better network administrator.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by illumen »

I've been looking for a 1TB drive connected to one.

I'd probably also want eSATA, since the hardware supports it, and you get way better speed, and way less cpu usage.

The no bittorrent, and no IRC turn me off. Why should the provider be messing around with the data coming in and out of my network? Both I've HAD to use on occasion on my servers. I do understand that it would reduce the amount of bad activity happening on their networks though.

I'm still bookmarking it for next time I want to evaluate hosting providers.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by brk »

lambda wrote: post #25

I like the effort they go through in the comment thread to discuss the performance, power draw, etc. compared to a VPS. For instance, a VPS appears to draw 56 watts per user, while the SheevaPlug plus disk at high load draw only 20 watts; a pretty nice power savings. From the site http://pluggr.info/#ps "Please note that TonidoPlugs installed on our network have the torrent functionality disabled, as it is a violatio…

I know why they do this, but I will not host on a network that forbids a protocol just because some people use it for unsavory purposes.

I understand your perspective, but coming from the other side, I can tell you for a small ISP operation it can be a major PITA worrying about lawsuits and other potential issues related to users doing things on your network that draw the wrath of content owners. I don't limit bandwidth or protocols, and I've gotten a few notices of boxes that were hosting copyright content, but it's more overhead and hassle that you don't need to deal with.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by LookingToBuy »

ciupicri wrote: post #32
lambda wrote: post #25

I like the effort they go through in the comment thread to discuss the performance, power draw, etc. compared to a VPS. For instance, a VPS appears to draw 56 watts per user, while the SheevaPlug plus disk at high load draw only 20 watts; a pretty nice power savings. From the site http://pluggr.info/#ps "Please note that TonidoPlugs installed on our network have the torrent functionality disabled, as it is a violatio…

AUP = Acceptable use policy? I'm beginning to hate acronyms from the bottom of my heart.

When I first saw this, I felt gutted. Having quickly record the coating whilst waiting for this pathetic ryanair flight get boarded, I feel better knowing I have just got a fantastic deal on my VPS. Won't mention the company here unless asked to, cost is just £10/ month.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by motters »

Being subject to non-torrenting, non-IRCing AUPs and other such nonsense would seem to negate the chief advantages of something like the SheevaPlug. If you're familiar with linux server configuration it's not any big deal to keep your plug at home.

If you're running a commercial web site with many users then obviously the SheevaPlug would be a poor choice, but for things like hosting your personal web site or blog it's perfectly adequate, and unless you make a complete hash of it maintenance is extremely minimal.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by tbrownaw »

jacquesm wrote: post #33
stcredzero wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2G or 3G wireless would be attached to someone's account (i.e. associated with a person). Easily solvable with shills or shell corporations. Think about the options of the authorities in the US. Police would have to get a search warrant. Which address are they going to get a search warrant for? The shill/shell company might have nothing to do with the whole thing other than maintaining the 3G accounts. The authoritie…

Shell companies will have people on the board as well. If it was that easy to have a corporate cover for a an illegal business there would be many more than there are today. Drug trade and other illegal stuff is 'cash only' for a reason, you don't want a paper trail. And places that hand out IP numbers to unknown MAC addresses should get a better network administrator.

> And places that hand out IP numbers to unknown MAC addresses should get a better network administrator.

What about coffee shops, hotels, libraries, etc that offer free wireless?

Hm. Build one with a solar panel and get it onto the roof of your local starbucks.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by stcredzero »

tbrownaw wrote: post #38
jacquesm wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shell companies will have people on the board as well. If it was that easy to have a corporate cover for a an illegal business there would be many more than there are today. Drug trade and other illegal stuff is 'cash only' for a reason, you don't want a paper trail. And places that hand out IP numbers to unknown MAC addresses should get a better network administrator.

> And places that hand out IP numbers to unknown MAC addresses should get a better network administrator. What about coffee shops, hotels, libraries, etc that offer free wireless? Hm. Build one with a solar panel and get it onto the roof of your local starbucks.

Pay off a barista and have them put a nondescript box somewhere out of sight but plugged in to the wall.

Re: $4.50/Month SheevaPlug Dedicated Server ($140 Setup)

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Post by pyre »

lhnn wrote: post #26
sbierwagen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IRC servers tend to draw DDOSes like honey draws bears. That and if the admins aren't paying attention, someone will use it for botnet C^3.

Just get that node.js chat server running on your sheevaplug... nowadays there are many new architectural iterations of IRC. Same with BitTorrent... I wonder how they filter that. What if I set up an Anomos server? http://anomos.info/

  > Just get that node.js chat server running on your sheevaplug...
  > nowadays there are many new architectural iterations of IRC.
Are you saying this would prevent DDoS's or are you stating this as a 'sneaky' way of getting an IRC server installed that the hosting provider might not notice.
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