The islands with a flourishing 'third gender'

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 5:23 PM UTC

08-15 wrote: post #13

Rotdhizon wrote: post #4

Very interesting read. The thing stood out to me most is that it says the islands didn't start getting discriminatory until they started encountering western culture and having it rub off on them. They still aren't overly discriminatory, but it is a minor side effect of contact with external influences. It is fascinating to know that there are islands where gender identify doesn't matter. If you want to be a woman, j…

> If you want to be a woman, just act like one and you will be accepted. But you still aren't a woman, you are omeggid.

Post by Meerax » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 5:40 PM UTC

_bfhp wrote: post #6

Rotdhizon wrote: post #4

Very interesting read. The thing stood out to me most is that it says the islands didn't start getting discriminatory until they started encountering western culture and having it rub off on them. They still aren't overly discriminatory, but it is a minor side effect of contact with external influences. It is fascinating to know that there are islands where gender identify doesn't matter. If you want to be a woman, j…

> If you want to be a woman, just act like one And what does this mean?

Post by belorn » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 6:11 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #25

belorn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What power do the chiefs actually have? The article says that all domestic decisions are made by women, and there is no hierarchy. Sound like "politicians and chiefs" are western interpretation of what could possible simply be a figure head or a diplomatic position to do trading with other islands.

It’s perfectly possible for women to have a lot of control over society, especially over domestic society, without that society being matriarchal. For instance, Brehon Law gave women rights which were unusual versus other western contemporaries, especially in terms of property, but no-one considers early Medieval Ireland to be matriarchal.

Post by GW150914 » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 6:23 PM UTC

anewone wrote: post #14

Thailand also has a third gender for MTF and Iran has support for MTF operations. What's interesting to me is that FTM doesn't seem to get the same support. Why is that? Is it because patriarchy doesn't want to allow more into the club but is fine with kicking people out? Is there a biological force which makes MTF more common? Not trying to offend anyone, I am genuinely curious.

Post by toasterlovin » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 6:55 PM UTC

recraft wrote: post #19

xj9 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if i'm not mistaken, MTF is more common that FTM in the general population, so it might not be tied to culture.

This is patently false[0]. (This is the largest population I could find) The reason it looks this way is because Western culture has systemic oppositional sexism and views female gender roles as performative and artificial (the way our culture expects women to always be wearing makeup being one of many examples), subsequently trans women are far more salacious of a topic to the general public, whereas trans men are e…