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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by runeks »

programd wrote: post #26
andrewl-hn wrote: post #10

Has anybody tried GKE and EKS from Amazon? What's your opinion on the later?

Here's a nice recent blog post about various issues you have to deal with to even set up a EKS cluster in AWS: https://medium.com/@dmaas/setting-up-amazon-eks-what-you-mus... I get the impression that compared to GKE, EKS is not yet fully baked as an easy to use product. It still involves too much manual fiddling around (e.g. see above) and operational complexity. I'd advise any clients of mine who want to run Kubern…

> BTW, for smaller shops and solo devs, I hear good things about the upcoming Digital Ocean Kubernetes service.

How would smaller shops and/or solo devs benefit from using Digital Ocean Kubernetes service over GKE?

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by nl »

im3w1l wrote: post #143
nl wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agreed with that until I found some people on HN who thought PizzaGate was a real thing. Even then I was open to the idea, but when someone turned up with a gun at Comet Pizza and started shooting I decided individual decisions about conspiracy theories are insufficient. The big problem is that there is no valid counter argument to conspiracy theorist. That means all conventional means of combating them are useless…

So it's not just you wanting high quality content? You also want to stop others from reading content you disagree with? Seems like a pretty drastic solution to a pretty small problem. You want to suspend democracy over an event where no one was even injured.

I don’t want to suspend democracy. I don’t want to stop others reading content I disagree with.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by williamchia »

whoisjuan wrote: post #80
2_listerine_pls wrote: post #77

Maybe they want to be acquired by google

You doubt it? Google is an investor in GitLab. They also push heavily for GCP to their customers offering USD 200 free credits (above the USD 300 you get by default). Zero marketing mentions regarding integrations with AWS, Azure or any other cloud providers. I wouldn't be surprised if they are hostile in terms of integrating with other Cloud providers. You even get marketing promotions about GCP in the consoles empt…

Hi, GitLabber here. There are several inaccuracies in your comment. Hopefully, I can clarify and comment.

> Google is an investor in GitLab

Not true. GV invested in GitLab. GV != Google. (Just do a web search to learn the difference.)

> push heavily for GCP to their customers offering USD 200 free credits

True. It's free credit for our users, of course, we let them know :) Note that this is Google's standard partner credit. All their partners offer this. It's not unique to GitLab.

> Zero marketing mentions regarding integrations with AWS

Not true. Amazon is also a GitLab partner, and We officially support EKS: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/06/eks-gitlab-integration/

> Sometimes it feels like a cheap Google adware.

This may be accurate. I think we got this wrong the 1st time out of the gate. Here's an issue where we improved the look and feel to be less 'adware' and more informative. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/48804

> advertised themselves as a cloud agnostic

We are a cloud-agnostic company and we do advertise it. (e.g. even in our launch post for the GCP marketplace we make a point to say "you can install GitLab almost anywhere" https://about.gitlab.com/2018/07/18/install-gitlab-one-click...) Although, perhaps not enough. This is good feedback that we need to make this message more front-and-center.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by eeeeeeeeeeeee »

sytse wrote: post #127
eeeeeeeeeeeee wrote: post #125

Interesting to see this now and then go back and read their post from 2016 where they stated they knew it was "time to move away from the cloud." https://about.gitlab.com/2016/11/10/why-choose-bare-metal/

See https://about.gitlab.com/2017/03/02/why-we-are-not-leaving-t... for why we're still in the cloud.

Thanks! Good read.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by myroon5 »

williamchia wrote: post #155
2_listerine_pls wrote: post #77

Maybe they want to be acquired by google

GitLabber here. GitLab publicly states our goal is to IPO on Wednesday, November 18. 2020 and that we don't want to be acquired so we can preserve our values: https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/#goals

That is oddly specific

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by agildehaus »

standardcitizen wrote: post #136
agildehaus wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linking /r/conspiracy doesn't help your case.

Is the information correct or incorrect? I’m not a massive fan boy if such kind of topics either. Often the crazy ones tell us research things that we often bypass. This is one of those times. I don’t agree with their messaging, but Alex Jones should be allowed. Again I completely whole heartily disagree with him, but we can’t be selective in this area. We’ve kind of validated him to some degree and made him much muc…

How exactly do you find a list of YouTube channels "correct" or "incorrect"?

YouTube bans thousands of channels a day. It's their right to ban whomever they please and they likely didn't even give the channel owner a reason much less me. For all I know each one of those violated very reasonable terms.

Where did this list even come from? Why are these channels special enough to make it to this list? My guess is the poster agreed with their content, or found news about their banning through various conspiracy-oriented websites.

There's no reason whatsoever to think this list is interesting. There is, however, plenty of reason to think where it was posted is not worth my time.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by dane-pgp »

agildehaus wrote: post #158
standardcitizen wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the information correct or incorrect? I’m not a massive fan boy if such kind of topics either. Often the crazy ones tell us research things that we often bypass. This is one of those times. I don’t agree with their messaging, but Alex Jones should be allowed. Again I completely whole heartily disagree with him, but we can’t be selective in this area. We’ve kind of validated him to some degree and made him much muc…

How exactly do you find a list of YouTube channels "correct" or "incorrect"? YouTube bans thousands of channels a day. It's their right to ban whomever they please and they likely didn't even give the channel owner a reason much less me. For all I know each one of those violated very reasonable terms. Where did this list even come from? Why are these channels special enough to make it to this list? My guess is the po…

The discussion has gone from "There are hundreds of instances of Google censoring ... YouTube channels ..." to "Name 5" to a list of dozens, to "YouTube bans thousands of channels a day", with different commenters making subtly different points at each stage.

I think the original point was that Google has a policy of censoring people based on the (perfectly legal) political views that those people have. As you say, Google has the absolute legal right to censor people because of their political views, and presumably you think it is not a problem if they do so.

So I don't think the interesting question is how many of the thousands of channels a day were banned for their unpopular political speech (nor is it interesting to know how special the channels on the r/conspiracy list are), but rather we should ask whether it is good for society if an entity as powerful as Google has this much editorial control over who is exposed to which ideas.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by agildehaus »

dane-pgp wrote: post #159
agildehaus wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly do you find a list of YouTube channels "correct" or "incorrect"? YouTube bans thousands of channels a day. It's their right to ban whomever they please and they likely didn't even give the channel owner a reason much less me. For all I know each one of those violated very reasonable terms. Where did this list even come from? Why are these channels special enough to make it to this list? My guess is the po…

The discussion has gone from "There are hundreds of instances of Google censoring ... YouTube channels ..." to "Name 5" to a list of dozens, to "YouTube bans thousands of channels a day", with different commenters making subtly different points at each stage. I think the original point was that Google has a policy of censoring people based on the (perfectly legal) political views that those people have. As you say, G…

They have no such policy, and you have no evidence whatsoever that people are being banned for political views alone.
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