YC China and Qi Lu • Hacker News Board

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by client4 » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 7:55 AM UTC

lunaru wrote: post #38

telltruth wrote: post #24

Sam, this exec BS doesn't look good on you. If Qi Lu is the "one of the most impressive technologiest" you have known then I would say you can be impressed pretty easily. Qi Lu is the guy who couldn't do a squat with Yahoo so he jumped ship to Microsoft. His main achievement there was to rename their product to "Bing". Finally not getting anywhere for almost a decade, he finally got pushed out and so he jumped on the…

When it comes to navigating China and your choices are Suit, Network, or Code, you take the Network every time. Alcohol tolerance is a plus.

Please tell me more about this drinking game ;)

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by client4 » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 7:57 AM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #151

Jommi wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but it's still not honest to say you don't need to learn Chinese at all. I would say that you will need atleast 6 months to be able to live normally, 12 months to get respect in business meetings, 3-4 years to be understood and make it a comp. advantage.And I'm not talking about 上海。

I'm always shocked when I visit shanghai and the taxi drivers can actually speak English. Nothing like that ever happens in Beijing. Plenty of foreigners work in China having much less than 6 months of Chinese. Most of them weren't even at my level. They still got by. Business meetings held with foreigners are usually in English anyways, it is only the old guard (Xi's generation) that can't English very well. And tho…

My winning combination for China: Google Fi (unrestricted access to real Internet), Google Translate, Didi. Most places have pictures for food so I just play the pointing game, but it would be difficult if you were a picky eater.

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by jmspring » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 7:58 AM UTC

jmspring wrote: post #167

Interesting to see YC embrace someone who went on leave at MSFT due to injuries of a bike accident... or so the news claimed. Yet popped up at Baidu/etc. Next up YC will hire the Amazon Exec that puffed himself up and was fired before he joined Uber?

For reference - https://www.recode.net/2016/9/29/13103352/microsoft-qi-lu-to...

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by client4 » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 7:58 AM UTC

hungryhobo wrote: post #165

philip1209 wrote: post #162

What effect does switching from Baidu to YC have on Qi's social credit system rating?

honestly i thought HN is better than this.

Why? Are you willing to elaborate? This type of comment really doesn't add value to the conversation.

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by client4 » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:00 AM UTC

helloguys021 wrote: post #4

I'm currently living in Shanghai and I want to work for YC China. Will YC China or Qi Lu post any job openings somewhere?

Hey! I'm in Shanghai a lot and love meeting up with other tech people if you're interested in a drink.

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by tanilama » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:02 AM UTC

natch wrote: post #112

fhe wrote: post #105

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to live in China, one could get by with little to no mandarin; but to do business in China, mandarin is a must.

Considering that there are over 300 million, yes million, people in China who do not speak Mandarin, I'd say yes one could get by. I'd even venture to say many of these 300 million people also do business in China. But yeah, I know what you meant.

> Considering that there are over 300 million, yes million, people in China who do not speak Mandarin

I don't think your numbers are right. Tibet has 4 million population. Xinjiang has 20 million, among which 50% are Han. Those are only 2 provinces where I can think of that doesn't require Mandarin to get by in certain area.

The rest of China, at least, could understand Mandarin without problems.

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by hungryhobo » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:14 AM UTC

client4 wrote: post #174

hungryhobo wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

honestly i thought HN is better than this.

Why? Are you willing to elaborate? This type of comment really doesn't add value to the conversation.

Working with YC wouldn't have much effect on Qi's social ratings.

Sorry I thought people had common sense

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by apta » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:17 AM UTC

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #158

YC China? Why would you even consider this? Sam has lost his mind.

Why enable them even more? People have to watch out about what China is doing. Unfortunately money speaks.

Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:19 AM UTC

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Re: YC China and Qi Lu

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Post by enwa » Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 8:27 AM UTC

wggl wrote: post #86

shard972 wrote: post #52

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If you want to make it in China then yea, you probably shouldn't be too hung up on human rights. It's not some universal concept that has applied throughout the world for our existence so it's quite rude to pretend like China has to bow to these systems of human rights we developed without china's input.

> It’s not some universal concept > it’s quite rude > we developed without china’s input It is hard to argue that detaining 1 million people for their beliefs[0] and then torturing them[1] is justifiable by cultural relativism. Or massacring people for that matter[2]. At that point you could argue for any atrocity. It’s not rude it’s basic humanity. It’s not just completely reasonable to ask a government in charge of…

Most Americans just don't care. In a few years it will be as unpopular to talk about China's exploits as it is talking about Israel-Palestine. You can argue that Europeans don't care either, but at least the work culture and society is different enough from China to make the latter unappealing. Much less so for Americans.