Two CMU Computer Science Professors Resign, Citing “sexist management”

Post by emddudley » Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #15

azhenley wrote: post #12

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What was removed??

Edit2: See nv-vn's comment below. They won't consider how much you "demonstrated interest" in CS to get into the program. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17446996 [Edit: this isn't only for the CS program, and it's not only about women, but you can fill in the blanks I guess] I think it makes sense if you think women (IIRC this was about the gender gap in CS) tend not to be directed toward CS as much as men are…

Post by PAClearner » Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 9:44 PM UTC

lukejduncan wrote: post #39

> “So we are resigning. We are not retiring, we are resigning,” she wrote. “No parties please.” I don't know how academia works, but what is the implication of "resigning" vs "retiring"? Does that change what happens with pensions or is it just a semantic difference used for emphasis?

Post by greglindahl » Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 9:47 PM UTC

PAClearner wrote: post #43

lukejduncan wrote: post #39

> “So we are resigning. We are not retiring, we are resigning,” she wrote. “No parties please.” I don't know how academia works, but what is the implication of "resigning" vs "retiring"? Does that change what happens with pensions or is it just a semantic difference used for emphasis?

think 'quitting' vs 'retiring'. no idea about pensions etc. I would be surprised if CMU offers pensions and not a normal 401k.

Post by PAClearner » Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 9:51 PM UTC

rwcarlsen wrote: post #22

beat wrote: post #21

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In the letter, they do address that the problems leading to their resignation are recent.

I saw that - but in their position I would be much more likely to do seemingly drastic things to send a message that I otherwise would not be willing to do if I had more to lose. To me, what they have done by resigning is not more significant than someone young in their career simply speaking out. It is commendable that they spoke out, but I don't see the resignations as adding much punch.

Post by rwcarlsen » Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 10:01 PM UTC

PAClearner wrote: post #47

rwcarlsen wrote: post #22

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I saw that - but in their position I would be much more likely to do seemingly drastic things to send a message that I otherwise would not be willing to do if I had more to lose. To me, what they have done by resigning is not more significant than someone young in their career simply speaking out. It is commendable that they spoke out, but I don't see the resignations as adding much punch.

idk man they are hugely famous in computer science and are also both renowned for being very kind and well known in the community. they aren't randos getting in a fight with their department. they are academic royalty so their actions are by default assigned a lot of credibility. as a someone in graduate school for computer science [not cmu] I find this shocking and am INTENSELY curious about the details. hard to ima…