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Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by dustingetz »

nlh wrote: post #7

Random semi-tangential question: It seems that when companies/PR people/lawyers respond to lawsuits, they always use some version of this EXACT phrase: "The allegations in the complaint are meritless, and ____ intends to vigorously defend against them." Responses almost always use the word "meritless" (or "baseless") and almost always describe their forthcoming response to be "vigorous". Is there a legal reason why t…

Yes, the stock phrases are preferred due to having established meaning from case law – interestingly, simple language is less likely to have needed to be tested in court, so this force drives evolution of legalese!

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by coralreef »

mmanfrin wrote: post #29
larkeith wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, this makes me lose any respect I might have had for them - while the lawsuit seems odd, resorting to ad hominem attacks is extremely unprofessional, and especially so in a PR statement. Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements.

This is a fairly common tactic in responding to suits, they are endeavoring to make the plaintiff's case seem silly . This is entirely intentional. You're not their target audience.

Who is their target audience?

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by themagician »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #2

> The suit alleges that IAC and Match Group manipulated financial data in order to create 'a fake lowball valuation' (to quote the plaintiffs’ press release), then stripped Rad, Mateen, Badeen and others of their stock options Wait, they didn't exercise their options into the sale? Did the founders hire a team of squirrels as their bankers? This is M&A 101 when switching to majority control. EDIT: Ah, Tinder was laun…

Can you ELI5 for me, because I don't understand this at all.

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by moksha256 »

craftyguy wrote: post #23
larkeith wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, this makes me lose any respect I might have had for them - while the lawsuit seems odd, resorting to ad hominem attacks is extremely unprofessional, and especially so in a PR statement. Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements.

> Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements. POTUS would disagree. Civility and basic courtesy are no longer popular. Such is the world we now live in. Edit: Anyone care to dispute this? I don't agree with it, but I'm also not willing to ignore it.

It depends on context. As much as some people would hate to admit it, communication and messaging is one thing POTUS is far from stupid about.

On Twitter and TV, he speaks the way he does to maximize attention and media coverage. He has found that evading basic courtesy is an effective way to use those media to his advantage.

In the context of a court statement or other official correspondence, I doubt you'd see him use such colorful language (indeed, check official White House correspondence signed by Trump: he doesn't).

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by Bjartr »

dilap wrote: post #26
craftyguy wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements. POTUS would disagree. Civility and basic courtesy are no longer popular. Such is the world we now live in. Edit: Anyone care to dispute this? I don't agree with it, but I'm also not willing to ignore it.

I think you're right. Being civil doesn't pay dividends unless most other people are civil too too, and if incivility is punished. Neither of those things are true, generally, right now, so being civil just makes you look weak. C'est la vie.

Real strength is in doing the right thing even when it is inconvenient to your image.

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

craftyguy wrote: post #23
larkeith wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, this makes me lose any respect I might have had for them - while the lawsuit seems odd, resorting to ad hominem attacks is extremely unprofessional, and especially so in a PR statement. Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements.

> Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements. POTUS would disagree. Civility and basic courtesy are no longer popular. Such is the world we now live in. Edit: Anyone care to dispute this? I don't agree with it, but I'm also not willing to ignore it.

I doubt he gets re-elected, so I would put forth the assertion that being non-civil and acting like a jackass doesn't work long term. People get a good look at it and it isn't appealing when they can see it for what it is.

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by sosuke »

moksha256 wrote: post #34
craftyguy wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Civility and basic courtesy is not copyrighted, use it in your public statements. POTUS would disagree. Civility and basic courtesy are no longer popular. Such is the world we now live in. Edit: Anyone care to dispute this? I don't agree with it, but I'm also not willing to ignore it.

It depends on context. As much as some people would hate to admit it, communication and messaging is one thing POTUS is far from stupid about. On Twitter and TV, he speaks the way he does to maximize attention and media coverage. He has found that evading basic courtesy is an effective way to use those media to his advantage. In the context of a court statement or other official correspondence, I doubt you'd see him…

Makes me worry we'll keep going until we start having news headlines when people aren't acting like assholes.

"So and so could have been a butt-head but they weren't!"

Re: Tinder founders sue parent companies Match and IAC for at least $2B

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Post by lainga »

DeonPenny wrote: post #35
mistrial9 wrote: post #11

I suspect that Tinder came from the Hot-or-Not Mashup Camp contest entry years ago .. Can anyone confirm that ?

No it was an internal startup made from Match.

Of course, you use a match to light tinder.
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