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Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#101

Yep. Pretty soon. You write code. You create a docker file. You find a place to run the docker file with your code [cheapest!]. Run it through your tests. Monitor it. The end. No vpcs,salts, puppets, sshs,chefs, horses,anisbles, cats,ec2s,devops,noops, sysadmins, kubernetes or chaos monkeys required.

Whenever a solution offers you simplicity, you're giving up flexibility. That's why I'd prefer to use a more advanced but standardized open source platform like Kubernetes.

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#102

Serverless n00b here: I'm just playing with serverless Rust, via Apex, which works great so far. Why would I want to switch to this? What are pros/cons of having Docker in there?

You don’t need a shim on top of Rust. You can run your docker image anywhere it is supported, like Heroku for instance…

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#103
post #35

There is no 'hype' word in history I hate more then serverless. I was fine with microservices and all those other hype words but serverless is terrible.

mind elaborating a bit?

He's probably mad because with serverless, there are servers. You just have no control over them. "Serverless" is just "shared hosting" reinvented...

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#104
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Setting up and maintaining a kubernetes cluster on my own would probably kill me desire to touch a computer again. Azure and Google provides free Kubernetes-cluster-management-as-service. But you are right, its still a hassle.

Been going through that process the past few days on Scaleway, as they don't have a hosted K8. It's... tough... but I'm learning a lot and have a much deeper understanding of K8s clusters from an operational perspective now. I have a much deeper understanding of the magic happening behind the scenes to keep everything talking to each other, and even if I wind up on a hosted solution in the end, it's been invaluable.

thats what I told myslef too when I invested hours after hours learning Knockout then AngularJS. Only for reactjs to dominate a year after. I skipped learning react and stuck with angular. Now I hear rumours theres a new sheriff in town named Vue.js.

Careful with filling your brain with domain-specific knowledge.

:)

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#105
post #6

Looks great for basic websites but it's missing the biggest and most difficult piece of cloud infrastructure. The DATABASE! Today you'd have to open up your cloud DB provider to the world since Zeit can't provide a list of IPs to whitelist. This is a showstopper for me unfortunately.

At Cloudflare, we're working on expanding Workers (https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-workers/) to allow access to your existing DB servers & offer protection with Argo Tunnel (https://www.cloudflare.com/products/argo-tunnel/). We are also enabling Workers to write into Cloudflare’s globally distributed cache, reducing retrieval time for repeated query results. We hope this will be a differentiator with using Cloudflare & highly valuable for your use cases.

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#106
post #73

Am I the only one having problems to follow .gif "demos"? When I get to the image, it is in the middle of everything and I don't really have an idea what is going on. Even watching it multiple times, I am not sure where it starts, ends, what the individual steps are. Or is it because I just don't know enough about this stuff?

And because it's an actual gif rather than re-badged mp4 (gifv) it's 1.6mb, it doesn't allow you control via browser controls and doesn't have a clear indicator of length.

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#107

And so ZEIT, my favorite serverless provider, keeps getting better. Highlights: - "sub-second cold boot (full round trip) for most workloads" - HTTP/2.0 and websocket support - Tune CPU and memory usage, which means even smoother scaling And all that for any service you can fit in a Docker container - which is also how you get near-perfect dev/prod parity, an often overlooked issue with other serverless deployment te…

What's a FANG developer?

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#108

Yep. Pretty soon. You write code. You create a docker file. You find a place to run the docker file with your code [cheapest!]. Run it through your tests. Monitor it. The end. No vpcs,salts, puppets, sshs,chefs, horses,anisbles, cats,ec2s,devops,noops, sysadmins, kubernetes or chaos monkeys required.

It feels so amazingly depressing for so much sunk knowledge to just go away and be worthless. Feels like I could have learned so many more things that I could have had gotten joy out of today and still extract useful things out of, or build things on top of, long into the future if I'd just focus on the time-invariants of knowledge space.

Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#109

And so ZEIT, my favorite serverless provider, keeps getting better. Highlights: - "sub-second cold boot (full round trip) for most workloads" - HTTP/2.0 and websocket support - Tune CPU and memory usage, which means even smoother scaling And all that for any service you can fit in a Docker container - which is also how you get near-perfect dev/prod parity, an often overlooked issue with other serverless deployment te…

What's a FANG developer?

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Re: Serverless Docker Beta

#110
post #46
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a "serverless hater", but every company I've ever worked with had backend processes that were not tied to HTTP requests. I still keep actual servers around because the HTTP gateway is not the pain point. It's long-running processes, message systems, stream processing, and reporting. That said, I look forward to the company (or side project) where "serverless" can save me from also assuming the "devops" role.

I think all that is still possible in Serverless. I'm not a serverless architect or anything, but that's typically handled by various serverless queues and related event systems.

Don't most serverless calls have a time limit?
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