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Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

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Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

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I wonder if this is legal. I mean, if one of these cars went haywire and mowed down a bunch of pedestrians before the "driver" was able to take control, I reckon Google would have some splainin to do. With autonomous vehicles coming closer and closer to a reality, it's somewhat alarming that there appears to be no legal body attempting to define some guidelines on this subject. At the rate our government works, we'll…

According to the article, Google's lawyers decided it was OK, because a human was sitting in the driver's seat ready to override the system at any time. I guess it's a little bit like student drivers being supervised by experienced drivers, but who knows what a random cop would think?

Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

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And in the event of an accident, who would be liable — the person behind the wheel or the maker of the software? The insurance company, just like today. Possibly paid for by the manufacturer and entirely included in the sales price, or possibly paid for by the driver/owner like today.

Civil liability is only half the issue. What about criminal liability? If your autonomous vehicle runs someone down because of a bug, who goes to jail?

Same as today, I guess -- whoever is responsible for the bug, but only if criminal negligence can be proven.

Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

#53

And in the event of an accident, who would be liable — the person behind the wheel or the maker of the software? The insurance company, just like today. Possibly paid for by the manufacturer and entirely included in the sales price, or possibly paid for by the driver/owner like today.

Civil liability is only half the issue. What about criminal liability? If your autonomous vehicle runs someone down because of a bug, who goes to jail?

What happens when this is due to a hardware bug, like with the Toyotas recently? I don't think criminal liability is involved except in special circumstances. Why should software be any different.

IANAL however.

Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

#55

Great news for terrorists. Now all they have to do is bomb Google's data centers and kill everyone on the roads :)

I am pretty sure the default response to a lack of connection is going to be revert to manual mode with loud siren, not zig-zag like crazy in traffic.

Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

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post #30

I wonder if this is legal. I mean, if one of these cars went haywire and mowed down a bunch of pedestrians before the "driver" was able to take control, I reckon Google would have some splainin to do. With autonomous vehicles coming closer and closer to a reality, it's somewhat alarming that there appears to be no legal body attempting to define some guidelines on this subject. At the rate our government works, we'll…

According to the article, Google's lawyers decided it was OK, because a human was sitting in the driver's seat ready to override the system at any time. I guess it's a little bit like student drivers being supervised by experienced drivers, but who knows what a random cop would think?

Actually the article says the legal counsel for the California DMV 'decided' it was o.k., which is even better!

Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

#59
post #39

In the short term, I could easily see the value in a souped up cruise control for driving on interstates. combined with infrared/night vision, this could easily make nighttime driving safer. Also, this has great potential (though would probably generate a lot of controversy) for drunk driving. Imagine if your car had a safety mode that could watch out for potential accidents and prevent them even with a human driver.…

> Imagine if your car had a safety mode that could watch out for potential accidents and prevent them even with a human driver. Well, if my car would do that I'd certainly drive to the bar more often. I'd want the fully autonomous "drive me home, Jeeves" system though.

If these systems can be trained to learn your habits, you might be surprised to find your car driving you to that spot where you used to see the other girl...

Re: Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic

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I had no idea the technology was this advanced. Last I heard was the DARPA challenge where they were still struggling to navigate traffic-free dirtroads. Google blows mind once again.

It's gone way beyond that. The Stanford team is now trying to race up Pike's Peak in an autonomous Audi, drifting around corners at full speed. They already are doing trials at 130mph, drifting, in the Nevada salt flats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exdUD02JryI&feature=chann...

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