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Your outlook does seem quite diseased. I don't know if phthalates are part of the etiology though.
Please don't reply to a bad comment by making the thread even worse.
Endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure in US: disease burden and cost analysis
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Re: Endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure in US: disease burden and cost analysis
#102How do I buy food in the US that I know hasn't been exposed to such pesticides?
Buy from a farmers' market, and ask. Most of the sellers will know off the top of their heads exactly how their crops have been grown and what was/wasn't used, and if they don't, that's a seller to avoid. As an added bonus, farmers' markets tend to be cheaper than supermarkets even as the food is better. It mystifies me that they aren't more commonly used and have a reputation as being for rich hipsters (i.e., like W…
People sell stuff at farmer's markets that they don't actually grow themselves. There's very little oversight.
And even if they do sell their own produce, who knows where they're growing it, or if they've had the soil tested for contaminants, or if they're being honest about pesticides and fertilizers.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can’t. Best thing you can do is buy certified organic, which would preclude a lot of nasty agricultural practices. There’s no industry certification for pesticide-free. Certified organic allows natural pesticides, some of which are harmful.
I feel like this isn't well-enough understood in my circles. Many people I know and talk to about it seem to think that organic means no pesticides, which is indeed far from true. Interestingly enough, something similar came up when we were looking for car seats for the first time, years ago. We were trying to limit flame retardants, which was(is still?) almost impossible. The best we could do was contact manufacture…
> chemical-free
Are they selling a vacuum? What could that phrase possibly mean with regards to baryonic matter?
Re: Endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure in US: disease burden and cost analysis
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like this isn't well-enough understood in my circles. Many people I know and talk to about it seem to think that organic means no pesticides, which is indeed far from true. Interestingly enough, something similar came up when we were looking for car seats for the first time, years ago. We were trying to limit flame retardants, which was(is still?) almost impossible. The best we could do was contact manufacture…
> chemical-free Are they selling a vacuum? What could that phrase possibly mean with regards to baryonic matter?
The types of mommy-bloggers and non-a-list celebs who would think dihydrogen monoxide is a caustic toxin. It's a certain type. You'll know them when you see/read them. ;)
Re: Endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure in US: disease burden and cost analysis
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like this isn't well-enough understood in my circles. Many people I know and talk to about it seem to think that organic means no pesticides, which is indeed far from true. Interestingly enough, something similar came up when we were looking for car seats for the first time, years ago. We were trying to limit flame retardants, which was(is still?) almost impossible. The best we could do was contact manufacture…
> chemical-free Are they selling a vacuum? What could that phrase possibly mean with regards to baryonic matter?
You forgot the Golden Rule.
Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize.¹
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's shocking is that buying from a farm is _more_ expensive than Whole Foods for you (or for anybody else for that matter). The price they charge wholesalers can be easily 1/10th of what you pay at a grocery store for a lot of common items, probably not beef, but vegetables for sure. To even consider the inconvenience of shopping at a farm, I'd have to see some serious cost advantages, of which there aren't any as…
From the farmer's perspective, it is a bit of an inconvenience to sell you anything less than a whole animal. The fixed costs of an on-farm slaughter building or mobile slaughter truck are comparable to the facility that processes thousands of animals per hour, but spread out among fewer animals. If you want it cheaper, best be prepared buy live and do the slaughter and butchering yourself, and plan some meals around…
It gets worse: there are u-pick farms where you _come and pick stuff yourself_ and they still charge you more than grocery store.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
> chemical-free Are they selling a vacuum? What could that phrase possibly mean with regards to baryonic matter?
You forgot the Golden Rule. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. ¹ 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I'm really trying. Some things some people think are just nonsensical because their model of reality is too inaccurate.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can’t. Best thing you can do is buy certified organic, which would preclude a lot of nasty agricultural practices. There’s no industry certification for pesticide-free. Certified organic allows natural pesticides, some of which are harmful.
I feel like this isn't well-enough understood in my circles. Many people I know and talk to about it seem to think that organic means no pesticides, which is indeed far from true. Interestingly enough, something similar came up when we were looking for car seats for the first time, years ago. We were trying to limit flame retardants, which was(is still?) almost impossible. The best we could do was contact manufacture…
How long ago was this? California, which had been the primary driver of the flame retardants being added nationwide, recently updated the regulations. The labeling now will state that no flame retardants were added.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
You forgot the Golden Rule. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. ¹ 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I'm really trying. Some things some people think are just nonsensical because their model of reality is too inaccurate.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
My wife and I buy most of our meats and vegetables directly from a farm. We have the farm owner's number on hand, and can call and ask. We can also ask to be there at the slaughter if we'd like or to visit the animals before hand. Surprisingly, it's not that much more expensive than whole foods for us. The farm is about a 20 mile drive from where we live. We like it. I found the program online. Didn't need any specia…
What's shocking is that buying from a farm is _more_ expensive than Whole Foods for you (or for anybody else for that matter). The price they charge wholesalers can be easily 1/10th of what you pay at a grocery store for a lot of common items, probably not beef, but vegetables for sure. To even consider the inconvenience of shopping at a farm, I'd have to see some serious cost advantages, of which there aren't any as…
The meat is grass fed and pastured (stricter than free range), so it's of higher quality than whole foods. The vegetables are significantly cheaper.