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From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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> One day a couple of years ago, I pulled out a list of the traits I wanted in a husband and realized that Charles had almost all of them. He rose early to begin each day with prayers and a list of goals that he ticked off as he accomplished them. Only in the US...

> Only in the US...

Which part? The traits desired in a husband? The morning prayers? The list of goals? Some of it? All of it?

Those all seem like things that could describe a lot of people in a lot of countries.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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This man is a hero. Not only because he served his country so honorably, but for the time, care, and consideration he took to codify his values and morals in his diary. This one hit me hard, especially now that I have a son. To think, there are so many children out there who will never see or get to meet their fathers again. I know it's not the same as a father, but I hope these kids find mentors or guides to try and…

He may be a hero to us, but he is also a coward to a lot of iraqis. For all the sympathy we conjure up for our own, we too easily forget the suffering of others.

To put things into perspective, about 4000 americans died as a result of the iraq war. Over a million iraqis died.

Hundreds of thousands of children died in the iraq war. And hundreds of thousands of iraqi children grew up without a father because of the iraq war. I guess it's all perspective. But I doubt most of the world would consider him a hero.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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This man is a hero. Not only because he served his country so honorably, but for the time, care, and consideration he took to codify his values and morals in his diary. This one hit me hard, especially now that I have a son. To think, there are so many children out there who will never see or get to meet their fathers again. I know it's not the same as a father, but I hope these kids find mentors or guides to try and…

Joining the military doesn't make you a hero

No one said it does, but the military does afford one plenty of opportunities to become a hero.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Man, fuck war. I really wonder how much longer the majority of humans are going to keep swallowing the lines of bullshit from the few that somehow, war is a necessity. War is not all that hard to avoid, but I guess warfare is both financially and politically profitable. Fuck everything about this. It is - literally - insane.

War is a racket: https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

wow... just, speechless...

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Man, fuck war. I really wonder how much longer the majority of humans are going to keep swallowing the lines of bullshit from the few that somehow, war is a necessity. War is not all that hard to avoid, but I guess warfare is both financially and politically profitable. Fuck everything about this. It is - literally - insane.

> Strikingly, no concern was voiced over the glaringly obvious fact that no official reason was ever offered for going to war -- no reason, that is, that could not be instantly refuted by a literate teenager. -- Noam Chomsky

What do you mean? The washingtonpost said that there was irrefutable evidence that hussein had WMDs and was working with al qaeda.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2003/02/06/i...

The same washingtonpost that recently got caught lying to the american people about syrian gas attacks and tried to dupe us into invading another country.

Next war that the lying media and politicians push, they and/or their sons should be on the frontlines and then the poor and downtrodden should be behind them.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly is wrong with that?

Some people can't help but hate on all forms of religion, regardless of context.

I read it as how culturally distinctive her evaluation of a romantic partner is:

a) She actually had a list of the desired / required traits of romantic partners on hand.

b) Desired traits include morning prayer.

c) Said traits also seemingly included the romantic partner having a daily to-do list.

Taken together you do get an interesting cultural phenomenon being displayed here.

So in my reading of the original post I found it more interesting than just "hating on religion".

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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post #3

Sad story. As a side note: After years trying to catch my thoughts on a computer, I’ve came to realize that handwriting is much more effective tool for me. My thoughts start flowing once I have a pen in my hand. Now I have a series of diaries that I use with several people, my wife, myself, my late mum.

For me it is the speed difference that makes handwriting so satisfying and good. I type faster then I think, writing however is slower. Handwriting gives me more time to consider the content and often leads to higher quality content.

Whether it be love letters or an important business message, handwriting it helps.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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post #40

> One day a couple of years ago, I pulled out a list of the traits I wanted in a husband and realized that Charles had almost all of them. He rose early to begin each day with prayers and a list of goals that he ticked off as he accomplished them. Only in the US...

You've managed to combine religious flamewar and nationalistic flamewar. Those munitions aren't allowed here, and we ban accounts that set them off.

No more posts like this, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Strikingly, no concern was voiced over the glaringly obvious fact that no official reason was ever offered for going to war -- no reason, that is, that could not be instantly refuted by a literate teenager. -- Noam Chomsky

What do you mean? The washingtonpost said that there was irrefutable evidence that hussein had WMDs and was working with al qaeda. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2003/02/06/i... The same washingtonpost that recently got caught lying to the american people about syrian gas attacks and tried to dupe us into invading another country. Next war that the lying media and politicians push, they and/or their…

We've banned both this account and the other one for repeatedly trolling HN.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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post #58
post #40

> One day a couple of years ago, I pulled out a list of the traits I wanted in a husband and realized that Charles had almost all of them. He rose early to begin each day with prayers and a list of goals that he ticked off as he accomplished them. Only in the US...

You've managed to combine religious flamewar and nationalistic flamewar. Those munitions aren't allowed here, and we ban accounts that set them off. No more posts like this, please. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry, I didn't intend to start any flame war, I didn't respond in any comments by the way.

It's just always so surprising to find that someone could have such rigid requirements for a relationship, and one of them being daily prayers (which sounds rather outdated for most younger westerners).

I've never encountered that in my european life (more so by magazines editorialists that are usually not very conservative here, although I'm not sure how the nytimes rates on the spectrum), and it's always surprising to me to see that such criterias are enforced and seem normal to everyone, even in upper strates of society, with good access to culture and education (which would be here the most adverse to religion). And yes, I think this whole phenomenon is rather specific to the USA. Even in Greece where many people are pious for example, daily prayers are very specific and active part of one's spiritual life, and I don't meet many people with that level of dedication to faith. It just seems oddly ... scholarly ? Like ticking boxes, as if daily prayer was of any spiritual worth in itself.

I didn't emit any judgment though, everyone is free to believe whatever they want.

Is it alright if expressed that way ? Can you unban my comment ?

Obviously it's not my native language that's why I rather don't engage in long explanations, so sorry if I offended anyone.

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