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Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

#11
I like it.

For some of these though, I feel like it would be nice if an "order" was established between different books (or the lack thereof mentioned). At least, I do not immediately seem to spot a mention of this.

What I mean is that I assume College Physics comes before University Physics, but at what point are you ready to start Astronomy? Also, where does College Physics for AP Courses fit in? (that might be more obvious for Americans?) How about the Biology books, do I need them for Anatomy?

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

#12
I've often thought that textbooks would be a productive place to focus excess energy among software freedom types. The way I see it, there are at least three ways in which most technology professionals could effectively contribute:

- Content production and editing

- Improving the design and branding of open textbook purveyors

- Advocating for the adoption of open source textbooks in your local K-12 system and community colleges (especially the more cash-strapped ones)

I know of no organization that attempts to organize community efforts in these directions, though. If there is one, I'd love to know about it and get involved. If not, maybe it's an idea whose time has come.

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

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I've often thought that textbooks would be a productive place to focus excess energy among software freedom types. The way I see it, there are at least three ways in which most technology professionals could effectively contribute: - Content production and editing - Improving the design and branding of open textbook purveyors - Advocating for the adoption of open source textbooks in your local K-12 system and communi…

Except that many profs write their own textbooks and then market them to a captive audience. I had a chemistry professor in undergrad who had the #1 textbook for the 101/102 level courses. He was a super nice guy, but one could not overlook the business angle there. He saw a niche and filled it with something of very high quality.

We have to keep in mind that not every professor is independently wealthy, in fact, most are not. If they can find success marketing their textbooks, they should. Where I draw the line is the insidious behavior of the publishers. Often the authors are as big a victims as the students.

So all I ask is that you "everything free" types keep in mind that people should be paid for their hard work. That it doesn't automatically mean someone else is being exploited and it certainly doesn't mean that the result can't still be open source. I am highly skeptical that anything high quality and worthwhile will come from uncompensated authors, editors, and publishers. Nothing ever works like that.

And yes, I was in higher ed as an undergrad and graduate student 2x and then as a professor for awhile. I have seen the best and worst of higher ed.

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

#14
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. I would very much prefer a "GPL type" share-alike licence. The basic principle is: I'm releasing this content to the public, with the expectation that anyone that builds upon it will also do the same. Otherwise people can take what I did, use it for their profit, and not contribute back, hurting the overall community. This doesn't seem fair to me.

For that you have the CC-license family and other similar licenses for artistic creations. The GPL does not strike me as the license to use for text books (since it asks for source code an such) and I think the FSF has state that the GPL isn't a good idea for documentation, I'd carry that to books too.

share-alike is a reference to a CC license, for example https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

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You can find those and more here: https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/ I'm still looking for the sources. I would like to compile them to epub format

You can find the sources when you go to the link "view online" which will redirect you to the http://cnx.org website to all the sources (OpenStax was Connections/CNX in the past). It includes all HTML/XML, images and special styling. Here an example for the algebra book (scroll down to downloads): https://cnx.org/contents/CImQfPDv@3.11:GfaWl1GG@4/Introducti... Actually they also produced epub in the past (disclaimer:…

Actually, I emailed back and forth to them about getting ePUB versions a few months ago and they repeatedly refused to offer them. I think they were unhappy with how ePUBs can be rendered on different devices and it was making their render quality lower. Not a great justification for me. Pulling the data out of CNX or whatever and trying to compile into ePUB was fairly difficulty.

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#16
Good to see that they offer free slides for the instructor. Now what's missing for widespread adoption is the online autograding system because at teaching colleges instructors are totally overworked and could not keep up with the weekly assignments even if they wanted to. College textbooks are chosen for the online student assignments, which typically cost the students 50 USD or thereabouts.

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

#18

I've often thought that textbooks would be a productive place to focus excess energy among software freedom types. The way I see it, there are at least three ways in which most technology professionals could effectively contribute: - Content production and editing - Improving the design and branding of open textbook purveyors - Advocating for the adoption of open source textbooks in your local K-12 system and communi…

Maybe CK-12 Foundation[0]? Also CK-12 have FlexBook's[1].

[0] https://www.ck12.org/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlexBook

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

#19
I teach mathematics at a community college and use free materials in my courses or use materials that I’ve created. I never use paid materials in my courses. The reason I can do this is because math doesn’t change from year to year. I’m in a subject whose content is static. Even so most open textbooks are quite bad. I’ve only found a few that were really good.

Writing a good book even in a field whose content doesn’t change much is hard. There’s a need for publishers but just not a need for one that charges hundreds of dollars for a textbook. It might not be economically feasible to have a publisher put out quality textbooks for less money but I can’t justify forcing my students to spend $200 to $300 per semester on a math textbook.

Re: OpenStax – openly licensed textbooks

#20

What's the difference between this and cnx.org? It seems tho have more books

cnx.org was the URL used when the organization was called Connexions. It was re-branded a few years ago to reflect its growth and expanded missions. Connexions became OpenStax CNX, within the larger OpenStax organization.

They are all a part of Rice University and based out of Houston, and have been pursuing the goal of providing open education resources since the 1990s.

They're also open source and active on GitHub: https://github.com/Connexions https://github.com/openstax

Source/Disclaimer: I'm a former employee and developer for Connexions and later OpenStax CNX.

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