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From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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orf wrote: post #10
Annatar wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nostradamus predicted it would last 27 years, with the “Union of the great Trumpet” eventually emerging victorious, followed by “1000 years of peace”. As a child I tried to decipher what the “Union of the great Trumpet” is, since it corresponds to no alliance I know of, and hypothesised that it would be the alliance of U.S.A., Europe and Russia. Since it’s known that Nostradamus misspelled Hitler as “Hister”, now I’m…

> Since it’s known that Nostradamus misspelled Hitler as “Hister”, Is it known? Because that's a pretty big leap. Hister refers to a river in Germany. In fact in his actual passage it refers to 'Hister' as a place, not a person.

It’s difficult to say; his quatrens leave much to interpretation. I remember this from a documentary.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Annatar wrote: post #11
orf wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Since it’s known that Nostradamus misspelled Hitler as “Hister”, Is it known? Because that's a pretty big leap. Hister refers to a river in Germany. In fact in his actual passage it refers to 'Hister' as a place, not a person.

It’s difficult to say; his quatrens leave much to interpretation. I remember this from a documentary.

Most are vague enough to be completely useless, I agree, but this is pretty clear. I guess your documentary wanted to have some sensationalist content, a-la 'ancient aliens', but no, it is not 'known' that Nostradamus predicted anything let alone WW2 after misspelling Hitler. In fact he references 'Hister' a few times in his writings, referencing a pretty large river in Germany.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Man, fuck war. I really wonder how much longer the majority of humans are going to keep swallowing the lines of bullshit from the few that somehow, war is a necessity. War is not all that hard to avoid, but I guess warfare is both financially and politically profitable.

Fuck everything about this. It is - literally - insane.

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Post by davchana »

baxtr wrote: post #3

Sad story. As a side note: After years trying to catch my thoughts on a computer, I’ve came to realize that handwriting is much more effective tool for me. My thoughts start flowing once I have a pen in my hand. Now I have a series of diaries that I use with several people, my wife, myself, my late mum.

When you say "with", do you mean you write a letter & other person writes an answer letter in that same diary? E.g. with wife; does that means letters between you both in that diary?

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Post by uRreading2slow »

mdekkers wrote: post #13

Man, fuck war. I really wonder how much longer the majority of humans are going to keep swallowing the lines of bullshit from the few that somehow, war is a necessity. War is not all that hard to avoid, but I guess warfare is both financially and politically profitable. Fuck everything about this. It is - literally - insane.

> Strikingly, no concern was voiced over the glaringly obvious fact that no official reason was ever offered for going to war -- no reason, that is, that could not be instantly refuted by a literate teenager.

-- Noam Chomsky

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Post by mango7283 »

saiya-jin wrote: post #8

> ... giving their lives for their country This is so surreal to somebody from Europe - how can you justify to be on the moral, just side (or even look at yourself in the mirror and call yourself a good christian or just a good person), when you go to place half around the world which did no aggression towards your home country, invade it, rape it, kill civilians left and right and utterly destroy it for generations…

Is being Europe really relevent? NATO forces were involved in Afghanistan... Are they different from American soldiers in this regard?

Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Annatar wrote: post #5
buth_lika wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bush and Cheney promised war that would not end in our lifetime, or our children's lifetime, and I and many others took that to mean it's intended to be eternal. With varying intensity, but no moment of no war or potential external threat. Bush also said we're either cool with that, or we're with the terrorists. So while 1984 will not be built in one day, but it was pretty much completely outlined in one day, and we'…

Nostradamus predicted it would last 27 years, with the “Union of the great Trumpet” eventually emerging victorious, followed by “1000 years of peace”. As a child I tried to decipher what the “Union of the great Trumpet” is, since it corresponds to no alliance I know of, and hypothesised that it would be the alliance of U.S.A., Europe and Russia. Since it’s known that Nostradamus misspelled Hitler as “Hister”, now I’m…

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Re: From Father to Son, Last Words to Live by (2007)

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Post by joering2 »

buth_lika wrote: post #4
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

We are about a year away from the first child born after September 11, 2001 being deployed to Afghanistan. The first child born after the second Gulf War began will be deployed to Iraq shortly after the next Presidential inauguration. We are also less than three years away from the war in Afghanistan becoming longer than the Vietnam War.

Bush and Cheney promised war that would not end in our lifetime, or our children's lifetime, and I and many others took that to mean it's intended to be eternal. With varying intensity, but no moment of no war or potential external threat. Bush also said we're either cool with that, or we're with the terrorists. So while 1984 will not be built in one day, but it was pretty much completely outlined in one day, and we'…

A saying that i heard once and shocked me goes something like this: the only people that have seen the end of the world are the ones who died on it.
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