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Re: Frink

#31

Post by ModernMech » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:23 AM UTC

heisenzombie wrote: post #20

For people in Python-world, I've tried many units packages and tend to prefer https://pint.readthedocs.io For the bedroom example someone posted, here's the equivalent in pint: import pint # Possibly my least favorite thing about Pint is # the verbose importing/instantiating dance u = pint.UnitRegistry() q = u.quantity() # there are multiple ways of making objects: volume = q('10 feet') * q(10, 'feet') * (10 * u.feet…

> I'm wondering about an importer for the Frink ones... but https://frinklang.org/frinkdata/units.txt doesn't seem to have a license?)

This is just a list of facts, no? You can't really copyright such a thing.

Re: Frink

#32

Post by jchw » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:23 AM UTC

heisenzombie wrote: post #20

For people in Python-world, I've tried many units packages and tend to prefer https://pint.readthedocs.io For the bedroom example someone posted, here's the equivalent in pint: import pint # Possibly my least favorite thing about Pint is # the verbose importing/instantiating dance u = pint.UnitRegistry() q = u.quantity() # there are multiple ways of making objects: volume = q('10 feet') * q(10, 'feet') * (10 * u.feet…

As far as I know, facts and information can't be copyrighted, which means at the very least the raw data in units.txt can be used freely with flagrant disregard for licensing.

Re: Frink

#33

Post by ModernMech » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:25 AM UTC

hardmath123 wrote: post #12

Frink is like 80% of the reason I passed first-year physics. It's like a typechecker… for science!

Dimensional analysis is the original type checking.

Re: Frink

#34

Post by ModernMech » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:26 AM UTC

tniemi wrote: post #16

How is this different than Unix `units`? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Units

Frink is a (Turing complete?) programming language. GNU Units is a program.

Re: Frink

#35

Post by lucb1e » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:32 AM UTC

blattimwind wrote: post #18

seiferteric wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are fun and I do them often, but you can just use google for most of this.

GNU units

Or Duckduckgo. For some reason GNU units never understands what I type, which is of course my own incompetence, but DDG does a fine job.

Re: Frink

#36

Post by 8_hours_ago » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 4:46 AM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #30

maxerickson wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ur carpenter is amazing.

I'm not quite sure what this means, but your profile proves you're not a spam bot, so I guess I won't flag it... did you submit this in the wrong tab or am I missing something?

I’m guessing they meant that it would require a good carpenter to make a room exactly 3m x 4m x 3m

Re: Frink

#37

Post by sllabres » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 5:06 AM UTC

ModernMech wrote: post #31

heisenzombie wrote: post #20

For people in Python-world, I've tried many units packages and tend to prefer https://pint.readthedocs.io For the bedroom example someone posted, here's the equivalent in pint: import pint # Possibly my least favorite thing about Pint is # the verbose importing/instantiating dance u = pint.UnitRegistry() q = u.quantity() # there are multiple ways of making objects: volume = q('10 feet') * q(10, 'feet') * (10 * u.feet…

> I'm wondering about an importer for the Frink ones... but https://frinklang.org/frinkdata/units.txt doesn't seem to have a license?) This is just a list of facts, no? You can't really copyright such a thing.

Don't know if this holds water... E.g. a cartographic map: just a "diagram" of facts?

Why not ask if there is a license for this file?

Edit: And as I see in this thread there is gnu-units (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Units) probably there is something with a license.

Re: Frink

#38

Post by jchw » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 5:13 AM UTC

sllabres wrote: post #37

ModernMech wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm wondering about an importer for the Frink ones... but https://frinklang.org/frinkdata/units.txt doesn't seem to have a license?) This is just a list of facts, no? You can't really copyright such a thing.

Don't know if this holds water... E.g. a cartographic map: just a "diagram" of facts? Why not ask if there is a license for this file? Edit: And as I see in this thread there is gnu-units ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Units ) probably there is something with a license.

The expression of facts is copyrightable, not the facts though. So importing it is water tight.

Re: Frink

#39

Post by ojii » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 5:35 AM UTC

8_hours_ago wrote: post #36

lucb1e wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not quite sure what this means, but your profile proves you're not a spam bot, so I guess I won't flag it... did you submit this in the wrong tab or am I missing something?

I’m guessing they meant that it would require a good carpenter to make a room exactly 3m x 4m x 3m

How would it be harder than to make a room exactly 10 feet x 12 feet x 8 feet?

Re: Frink

#40

Post by mmanfrin » Mon, Aug 13, 2018, 6:22 AM UTC

sllabres wrote: post #37

ModernMech wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm wondering about an importer for the Frink ones... but https://frinklang.org/frinkdata/units.txt doesn't seem to have a license?) This is just a list of facts, no? You can't really copyright such a thing.

Don't know if this holds water... E.g. a cartographic map: just a "diagram" of facts? Why not ask if there is a license for this file? Edit: And as I see in this thread there is gnu-units ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Units ) probably there is something with a license.

A map is not copyrightable. It is just a diagram of facts. Mapmakers protect themselves by inserting fake data which they can then use to claim copyright.