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What the f*** is the edge?

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Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by skrebbel »

FreezerburnV wrote: post #160
TeMPOraL wrote: post #99

> Cynics might of course argue that we have come full circle, from thick client to butt back to thick client, but that would miss the point of what "the edge" is all about: In a world of increasingly ubiquitous computing power we are well advised to reflect on where our computation happens and how we can make the most efficient use of the resources at our disposal. Which is exactly why we the cynics say we've come fu…

In case anybody else is confused like I was: there is a plug-in for browsers that turns all mention of “cloud” to “butt”. Parent apparently has this plugin installed, and thus the “to butt” part is “to cloud”. (Users of said plugin will see me just saying butt a lot here :P )

I believe it also turns "the cloud" into "my butt". It's a pretty amazing extension, actually.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by Nokinside »

5G networks take heavy bet on the future of edge computing.

5G's secret weapon against other wireless technologies is reliable ultra low latency (up to 1 ms, at a low failure rate). It's enough for network automation in factories and factory robotics.

For customer applications it would make a sense to but graphics processors that can do VR, AR, games and machine learning inference very close to customers. It's and more practical for mobile users cheaper to get computing power as service than carry it around.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by goliatone »

pjkundert wrote: post #155
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A fully mesh P2P computer cloud would be magical. Everybody is the edge that way :)

We’re building that right now: https://holo.host

Following that link I learned about an ICO and then had some marketing content. Honestly I wanted to learn from the link “how” you were going to change things- maybe technical content?- instead I got this flashback when a bunch of years ago you would see these land pages of gurus selling you books about how they got rich online...

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by cjhanks »

FreezerburnV wrote: post #160
TeMPOraL wrote: post #99

> Cynics might of course argue that we have come full circle, from thick client to butt back to thick client, but that would miss the point of what "the edge" is all about: In a world of increasingly ubiquitous computing power we are well advised to reflect on where our computation happens and how we can make the most efficient use of the resources at our disposal. Which is exactly why we the cynics say we've come fu…

In case anybody else is confused like I was: there is a plug-in for browsers that turns all mention of “cloud” to “butt”. Parent apparently has this plugin installed, and thus the “to butt” part is “to cloud”. (Users of said plugin will see me just saying butt a lot here :P )

Thanks, I re-read that multiple times and thought I missed a rapid shift in nomenclature.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by ctvo »

The edge, as used most often in my experience, is the entry point that connects the public and private internet. It rarely has anything to do with location (in almost all cases it's implied the edge is regionalized to be the closest data center to the target).

For AWS: a Lambda at the edge, for example, may be a Lambda behind an API Gateway that acts as the public entrypoint into infrastructure behind a VPC. That Lambda is at the edge.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by troika »

pratumlabs wrote: post #156
zackbloom wrote: post #15

We (Cloudflare) have largely stopped talking about the 'edge' for some of the reasons cited in the article. 1. No one actually knows where it is or what it means. 2. It conjures images of classical ‘edge compute’ use cases like the self driving cars in the article. Those use cases tend to be exceptionally specialized (or just silly). 3. Edge implies a core or origin exists, and maybe it doesn’t need to. We would rath…

As with any emerging computational platform, there is always going to be confusion. For example, when Cloud Computing first premiered I can't count the number of times I had conversations with C-level executives, IT managers, and even engineers thinking that "The Cloud" solved their problem whereas in reality it didn't. With Edge and Fog Computing, we are very much in this early phase of ambiguity. At present, the cl…

Thanks, very interesting article and great explanations based on examples. Very exciting space!

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by pjkundert »

goliatone wrote: post #163
pjkundert wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re building that right now: https://holo.host

Following that link I learned about an ICO and then had some marketing content. Honestly I wanted to learn from the link “how” you were going to change things- maybe technical content?- instead I got this flashback when a bunch of years ago you would see these land pages of gurus selling you books about how they got rich online...

An overview is available in the Green Paper: https://files.holo.host/2018/03/Holo-Green-Paper.pdf

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by millstone »

wolframhempel wrote: post #94
dantiberian wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please just remove anything that interferes with the scrolling at all.

Should be fixed now (there's nothing trying to interfere with the scrolling, just an overflow setting to hide the hamburger menu that seemed to cause the laggy scroll on iOS. (Hopefully I didn't make it worse - redeploying while being Hackernews #1 is always a bit scary)

Much better now, ty!

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Post by rhizome »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #90
rhizome wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3. Edge implies a core or origin exists, and maybe it doesn’t need to. Maybe borrow from physics to call it the Egress Horizon.

Would you mind expanding a little. Google has led me to a brand of window maker, and to of course, black hole event horizons but I am not clear on the specific egress horizon. I can guess what you intended but would be interested in the specifics.

Egress = output; Horizon = the border of control, where packets are "released to the world"
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