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An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

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Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

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Is it me or are we seeing a bit too much buzzfeed articles here lately?

SQL injections are child's play. Literally. It's last decade's "hack", if we can call it that. Using parameterized queries ( which you should be doing in the first place ) or simple defensive measures nullifies sql injection threats. The headline is clickbait nonsense.

Also it's a shame that defcon has turned into a "disney" event. Who even attends it anymore other than families and FBI agents and slimey salesmen peddling their software.

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#13
post #3

> “If you’re saying ‘even a kid can hack into this,’ you’re not getting the full story, which can have the impact of the average voter not understanding,” Manfra told BuzzFeed News. BuzzFeed's headline: "An 11-Year-Old Changed The Results Of Florida's Presidential Vote At A Hacker Convention." If all you see is the headline, that's exactly the impression you're going to get. Lampshading it halfway through the article…

I typed out a big comment criticizing the fact that the kid was also shown how to do the exploit, as opposed to figuring it out for himself.

But y'know what? Good for them. That's step one to figuring out their own exploits. And it makes you think: If even a preteen can pick up the gist of how to do the exploit, you could imagine paying someone to go around and try to run it on election day. They don't need to be very smart, just hard up for cash and willing to take a dumb risk.

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#14

Is it me or are we seeing a bit too much buzzfeed articles here lately? SQL injections are child's play. Literally. It's last decade's "hack", if we can call it that. Using parameterized queries ( which you should be doing in the first place ) or simple defensive measures nullifies sql injection threats. The headline is clickbait nonsense. Also it's a shame that defcon has turned into a "disney" event. Who even atten…

Agree that it's a media circus. Most of us attend to catch up with old friends.

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#15

How seriously can we take an article that refers to Windows 4.1? (100% against voting machines, but this article doesn't seem to know what it's talking about.)

What's the problem, without looking I can't tell if the device was running WinCE 4.1 ... I don't really know the Windows eco-system, is that impossible?

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#16

How seriously can we take an article that refers to Windows 4.1? (100% against voting machines, but this article doesn't seem to know what it's talking about.)

Probably referred to Windows CE 4.1. But not encouraging given that this is their writer focusing on the cybers.

And yes, it's important to be precise when you're reporting on something. It's the details that make the story. What happened if he said "Windows 4.0"? Would people think Windows CE 4.0 (supported until 2012) or Windows NT 4.0 (out of support for well over a decade).

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#17
post #6

I've noticed now it's become almost accepted knowledge among the general public that Russia literally hacked election machines and changed votes. Even this article appears to present that view in the first couple paragraphs before finally stating otherwise halfway through.

I really don't understand what the media is trying to accomplish by pushing this narrative. This fear mongering will create distrust in elections and the election results, undermining democracy.

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

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post #13
post #3

> “If you’re saying ‘even a kid can hack into this,’ you’re not getting the full story, which can have the impact of the average voter not understanding,” Manfra told BuzzFeed News. BuzzFeed's headline: "An 11-Year-Old Changed The Results Of Florida's Presidential Vote At A Hacker Convention." If all you see is the headline, that's exactly the impression you're going to get. Lampshading it halfway through the article…

I typed out a big comment criticizing the fact that the kid was also shown how to do the exploit, as opposed to figuring it out for himself. But y'know what? Good for them. That's step one to figuring out their own exploits. And it makes you think: If even a preteen can pick up the gist of how to do the exploit, you could imagine paying someone to go around and try to run it on election day. They don't need to be ver…

> ...figuring it out for herself.

Fixed that for you.

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#19
post #6

I've noticed now it's become almost accepted knowledge among the general public that Russia literally hacked election machines and changed votes. Even this article appears to present that view in the first couple paragraphs before finally stating otherwise halfway through.

I really don't understand what the media is trying to accomplish by pushing this narrative. This fear mongering will create distrust in elections and the election results, undermining democracy.

They quite clearly should be distrusted in the current conditions. Electronic voting should go. This greatly reduces the attack surface.

Re: An 11-Year-Old Changed the Results of Florida's Presidential Vote at DEFCON

#20
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I typed out a big comment criticizing the fact that the kid was also shown how to do the exploit, as opposed to figuring it out for himself. But y'know what? Good for them. That's step one to figuring out their own exploits. And it makes you think: If even a preteen can pick up the gist of how to do the exploit, you could imagine paying someone to go around and try to run it on election day. They don't need to be ver…

> ...figuring it out for herself . Fixed that for you.

Whoops, thank you!
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