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What the f*** is the edge?

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Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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guitar player from U2

Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.

Also, I can appreciate how some might feel like we are in a "fat client" world again and in some cases I am sure we are - it will depend on who is wielding the hammer as to whether it is used "properly" or the "most efficiently". I love how the modern cloud allows us to deploy computational power to the source of the data - if we so choose/need to.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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https://arcentry.com/

What does "open-source" refer to in "Create beautiful cloud and open-source diagrams"?

As in it offers components that are unrelated to any cloud provider. Postgres, Nginx, Kafka etc.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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The anecdote at the start of the article seems to me to suggest the investor talked about "being at the edge of science" or technology - i.e. doing something disruptive and new. But the rest of the article talks about the location of data and servers and it's relationship with the word "edge". Am I missing something? Why is the anecdote unrelated to the article?

(Author here) sorry about the confusion, I can see where you are coming from. But yes, the investor was very much enquiring about whether it is on "the edge" in a cloud computing sense. Having said that, it's important to stress that many - in fact, most - of the VCs I've talked to were amongst the most impressive, accomplished, knowledgeable and intelligent people I ever had the pleasure to work with. There is, howe…

Thank you for the clarification. "On the edge" seems so strange to me when talking about edge computing/caching but I suppose I'm not in that industry.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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I still don’t understand what problems people have with xml. The json vs xml debate very much feels like the tab vs white space debate to me.

I suspect the reasons that XML ultimately lost are: 1. You could represent it as a nested structure of your language's standard lists & maps, which you already know the API of, which you could directly operate on. For dynamic languages, this is much faster to stick a prototype together, even if it bites you in the ass eventually. But by the stage, you've already chosen JSON. 2. It was less characters to manually type…

You forgot my favorite one:

6. Too easy to accidentally reinvent Lisp via xml.

I thought it was funny the first time I ran into an instance of it happening, which quickly turned into horror. Not only was the logic split, but it meant mentally parsing this:

  
I mean, it sort of makes sense...?

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Conveniently all of your users have 90s era supercomputers in their pants. Shame we're wasting that compute on nonsense.

Mobile devices' compute power is there to serve a massive amount of input/output components and sensors. If we start to usurp this computing margin for our applications, the devices will overheat and break, irritating quite some people probably.

You mean glitter and ads? Because sensors and I/O doesn't require much power; nowhere near as much as is available.

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The cycles you mention are each very interesting. Flash/Silverlight/HTML5/WASM - this, to me, is a story of a technology being useful, then growing to give too much power to web publishers - who tend to abuse any given power - then reverting to a weaker technology in order to unscrew the web. Rinse, repeat - HTML5 is already rapidly approaching peak Flash, and introduction of WASM isn't going to help here. Soap/REST/…

I still don’t understand what problems people have with xml. The json vs xml debate very much feels like the tab vs white space debate to me.

Basically it's a Markup Language, not a data transfer language, so it was far from ideal to use it as one. See for example the ambiguity between what should go into tag attributes vs. tag content etc. Also the eXtensibility makes things too complicated for many use-cases. You don't have to care about any of this with JSON.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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We (Cloudflare) have largely stopped talking about the 'edge' for some of the reasons cited in the article. 1. No one actually knows where it is or what it means. 2. It conjures images of classical ‘edge compute’ use cases like the self driving cars in the article. Those use cases tend to be exceptionally specialized (or just silly). 3. Edge implies a core or origin exists, and maybe it doesn’t need to. We would rath…

Conveniently all of your users have 90s era supercomputers in their pants. Shame we're wasting that compute on nonsense.

> Conveniently all of your users have 90s era supercomputers in their pants. Shame we're wasting that compute on nonsense.

Supercomputers were designed and built to be used to capacity (otherwise they would be a waste of money). Modern mobile phones and laptops are not.

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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(Author here) sorry about the confusion, I can see where you are coming from. But yes, the investor was very much enquiring about whether it is on "the edge" in a cloud computing sense. Having said that, it's important to stress that many - in fact, most - of the VCs I've talked to were amongst the most impressive, accomplished, knowledgeable and intelligent people I ever had the pleasure to work with. There is, howe…

Thank you for the clarification. "On the edge" seems so strange to me when talking about edge computing/caching but I suppose I'm not in that industry.

I work in cloud computing and also find it strange. At most, I have referred to CDN "edge nodes", but I would've never said "on the edge", but "on the edge node". In other contexts, I simply would've referred to "the closest datacenter".

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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I deeply hope it's a buzzword prank so that non-tech people and managers will start demanding "edgy software" and "edgy computing" and looking to hire "rockstar edgelord".

At the very least one hopes that managers will start googling for "edging videos".

Re: What the f*** is the edge?

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Nerdalize is a startup that builds a decentralized data center as it's core product. Well interesting if you're building edge services: www.nerdalize.com

I remember hearing about something similar to this some time ago.

What happens during heat waves? Just wondering.

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