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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by clairity »

CryoLogic wrote: post #82
ma2rten wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

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freedom of speech only applies to governmental entities. private businesses and individuals are not restricted similarly.

freedom of speech does not keep someone from thinking you (not you specifically, but the general you) are an idiot or a kook, nor does it protect you from the consequences of your words by those other individuals (obviously other laws protect you from intentional physical harm and the like). nothing can compel me to listen to you or make a company broadcast your conspiracy theories (again, the general you).

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by yzmtf2008 »

CryoLogic wrote: post #87
joshuamorton wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took a cursory look through those, and every one I looked at appeared to be claiming that Sandy Hook/Las Vegas/Anothy Bourdain's suicide/some other thing was fake and a conspiracy. Can you explain how "Sandy hook was faked and no children were killed" is a political view? Or how "Anthony Bourdain's suicide was faked for monetary gain" is somehow a political opinion?

I never said I agreed with any of the channels or their content if you read my comment closely. I only against censoring freedom of speech and creating ideological echo Chambers.

If "Sandy Hook is not fake" is an echo chamber to you, either your definition of echo chamber is wrong, or I'd rather not have you in my "chamber".

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by yzmtf2008 »

miracle2k wrote: post #14
smnrchrds wrote: post #12

I wish they hadn't done this. Google has a unique and strict interpretation of US sanctions on countries like Iran and Cuba, much more strict than that of Microsoft or Amazon. If your site is hosted on GCP, Google blocks access to it from any sanctioned countries.

Exactly right. Much more attention needs to be brought to this subject. Imagining Google Cloud having as much market share as AWS is downright nightmarish. It would break large parts of the internet in those countries. I regularly travel to Iran, and can attest to a large number of random breakages (for example: the documentation of the date-fns library, because it loads data from Firebase). Google as an infrastructu…

Google as an infrastructure provider simply has no business being involved in where my content is available.

No, Google has no business in it, but export control does.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by CryoLogic »

yzmtf2008 wrote: post #92
CryoLogic wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said I agreed with any of the channels or their content if you read my comment closely. I only against censoring freedom of speech and creating ideological echo Chambers.

If "Sandy Hook is not fake" is an echo chamber to you, either your definition of echo chamber is wrong, or I'd rather not have you in my "chamber".

Even if they are wrong they should not be censored.

Clearly state what is allowed and what is not. Do not pick sides and change rules on a case by case basis.

Do what you say you are going to do. That's how businesses used to earn trust. Now integrity in business is a thing of the past.

I'd rather have a bunch of crazy people expressing themselves on the web than being selectively removed due to a couple's persons opinions on what is right especially when it is not written in stone and enforced sitewide on all accounts.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by yzmtf2008 »

CryoLogic wrote: post #94
yzmtf2008 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If "Sandy Hook is not fake" is an echo chamber to you, either your definition of echo chamber is wrong, or I'd rather not have you in my "chamber".

Even if they are wrong they should not be censored. Clearly state what is allowed and what is not. Do not pick sides and change rules on a case by case basis. Do what you say you are going to do. That's how businesses used to earn trust. Now integrity in business is a thing of the past. I'd rather have a bunch of crazy people expressing themselves on the web than being selectively removed due to a couple's persons op…

Nah, I'd rather not have the bunch of crazy people expressing themselves on the website that I use. Youtube is not all of web. Youtube has no obligation to give you a platform to express whatever you want.

If you want to say Sandy Hooks is fake, go to your own corner, like 127.0.0.1.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by hedora »

hedora wrote: post #88
ma2rten wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

Google has well-documented ties to the US state dept at the highest levels of both organizations. For example: https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/ There are many allegations in there, but the most salacious one is that Schmidt’s girlfriend was illegally working for Hillary on State dept matters. (I believe they made audio recordings of the phone calls that prove this, but can’t find the shorter write u…

Since the sibling posts are mostly right wing, and I only mentioned Hillary Clinton, here is a more bipartisan example:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Cohen

The CEO of Jigsaw (formerly Google Ideas) advised both Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by cutety »

matteeyah wrote: post #83
cutety wrote: post #57

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I’d also be interested in some actual performance metrics/benchmarks. I’m a big fan of gitlab, love gitlab CI, and I Iike (most of) the UI more than github’s, but my one biggest gripe with it it is how sluggish browsing it at times could be, groaning if I accidentally clicked the wrong file because now I have to wait/stop that and go back and then wait for the one I actually wanted. It’s certainly improved over the l…

We're working on making GitLab as fast as possible. We have a list of all ongoing efforts to improve performance of GitLab (the product) at [1]. There's also a list of ongoing efforts for improving performance and availability of GitLab.com specifically [2] (performance) and [3] (availability). As for the differences compared to being on Azure. We don't have any definitive results right now. We'll have to wait for Mo…

Oh yes, I’m definitely aware of your guys hard work on increasing performance, and it definitely hasn’t gone unnoticed/unappreciated. I’ve been using gitlab for a couple years now (drew me in with free private repos, and now have happily locked in with all the CI/devops tooling stuff, having that all in one place is what I love about gitlab) , and the difference between the performance now vs two or so years ago is incredible (that’s even with all the features that have been added since). I just wanted to express my only complaint I have had/frequently see, which as of recently has hardly ever been an issue. Also, really thankful it’s open source, as I find myself looking through the repo fairly often to see how you guys handle things in such a large app, as I’m the sole developer on an ever growing Rails app, gitlab’s code has been one of my gotos for ideas/seeing how something could be done. Hoping eventually I’ll get familiar with it enough that I’ll be able to make some contributions to those performance improvements instead of just complaining online about it ;).

> With regards to the Education program - it's now in full swing and available to everyone.

Awesome to hear! The group that maintains the gitlab instance is just a few volunteers that meet once/twice a month to work on maintenance/upgrades, and the update I got from them about the education license being on hold was ~2-3 weeks ago, however this month’s meeting was cancelled for whatever reason, so they likely have gotten the update that it’s now available, and just haven’t had the chance to work on getting it setup yet. But, I’ll ask them Monday, and send them the link if they aren’t already aware. Can’t wait to finally get to use some of those awesome ultimate features at work.

Appreciate the response! Always like seeing you guys pop in to these threads with some extra tidbits/insights/help.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by trumped »

mavhc wrote: post #81
CryoLogic wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are hundreds of instances of Google censoring websites, YouTube channels and plus accounts that promoted political philosophies that did not agree with the company culture. I think by that metric Google is very pro censorship when it comes to their own social media platforms

Name 5

sometimes they do a "soft" censor and just push them down the search result list so that any casual user would never see them... but they also do some hard censoring.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by mdaniel »

I missed watching their livestream as it was 3am, and my YouTube search-fu isn't good enough to find the archive link.

Is there an archive link, or is it just gone because I didn't watch right then?

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by sytse »

mdaniel wrote: post #99

I missed watching their livestream as it was 3am, and my YouTube search-fu isn't good enough to find the archive link. Is there an archive link, or is it just gone because I didn't watch right then?

We didn't do a livestream since we were concerned about showing credentials in the terminal in case things didn't go according to plan. We did record it and plan to publish it since it went according to plan.
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