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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by mavhc »

CryoLogic wrote: post #79
ma2rten wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

There are hundreds of instances of Google censoring websites, YouTube channels and plus accounts that promoted political philosophies that did not agree with the company culture. I think by that metric Google is very pro censorship when it comes to their own social media platforms

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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by CryoLogic »

ma2rten wrote: post #68
zzzcpan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by matteeyah »

cutety wrote: post #57
mattlondon wrote: post #39

Anyone noticed any performance changes? Anyone from Gitlab have any data to share? I had a look at https://monitor.gitlab.net/d/000000003/fleet-overview?refres... but don't know what I am looking at :-) General browsing around feels snappier than it did before. I just tried importing some new repos from Github and it was fast (like 2 or 3 seconds for tiny repos, under 10s for larger ones). During the aftermath of the…

I’d also be interested in some actual performance metrics/benchmarks. I’m a big fan of gitlab, love gitlab CI, and I Iike (most of) the UI more than github’s, but my one biggest gripe with it it is how sluggish browsing it at times could be, groaning if I accidentally clicked the wrong file because now I have to wait/stop that and go back and then wait for the one I actually wanted. It’s certainly improved over the l…

We're working on making GitLab as fast as possible. We have a list of all ongoing efforts to improve performance of GitLab (the product) at [1]. There's also a list of ongoing efforts for improving performance and availability of GitLab.com specifically [2] (performance) and [3] (availability).

As for the differences compared to being on Azure. We don't have any definitive results right now. We'll have to wait for Monday so we can get more performance data. Most likely, we'll have a better image if and how performance changed in the middle of next week. That being said, we did observe an improvement in p95 response time for our web and api nodes - it's a roughly 30% to 40% reduction. We're working on a public monitoring page so you and the community can browse through these metrics at your own leisure.

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With regards to the Education program - it's now in full swing and available to everyone. You can apply via [4]. We sent out an automated email to let people know it was still in preparation some time ago. It should have been followed up with an email stating that it's fully functional too. Not sure why the university you work at didn't get the second one. Let me know if there's any holdups with your application after you apply through the linked form.

[1] - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?scope=all&utf...

[2] - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues?scope=al...

[3] - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues?scope=al...

[4] - https://about.gitlab.com/education/

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by joshuamorton »

CryoLogic wrote: post #82
ma2rten wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

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I took a cursory look through those, and every one I looked at appeared to be claiming that Sandy Hook/Las Vegas/Anothy Bourdain's suicide/some other thing was fake and a conspiracy.

Can you explain how "Sandy hook was faked and no children were killed" is a political view? Or how "Anthony Bourdain's suicide was faked for monetary gain" is somehow a political opinion?

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by vbezhenar »

otterlicious wrote: post #40
smnrchrds wrote: post #19

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The legal requirements are lower. They are not allowed to sell hosting to persons from sanctioned countries for example, and all companies follow that rule. But interpreting the law to mean you cannot show hosted sites to visitors from those countries (like Google) or that you cannot allow downloads of free software from your website (like Oracle JRE) is an over-reaction only some companies do. The real reason is tha…

> cannot allow downloads of free software from your website (like Oracle JRE) The Oracle JRE contains strong cryptography which is illegal to export to certain sanctioned countries. It being free doesn't change anything about that. That one is actually legitimate.

Last time I checked, you couldn't even use strong cryptography in Java without tiny additional download. So forbidding JRE downloading seems a bit excessive.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by krn »

anothergoogler wrote: post #48
krn wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pointed out OVH as a cloud provider with a strong stance on the internet without borders. Hetzner doesn't come even close in this regard.

Perhaps in your mind you did, but the comment I replied to was not so specific.

You might be right. Nevertheless, Hetzner is not an alternative to GCP.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by CryoLogic »

joshuamorton wrote: post #84
CryoLogic wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I took a cursory look through those, and every one I looked at appeared to be claiming that Sandy Hook/Las Vegas/Anothy Bourdain's suicide/some other thing was fake and a conspiracy. Can you explain how "Sandy hook was faked and no children were killed" is a political view? Or how "Anthony Bourdain's suicide was faked for monetary gain" is somehow a political opinion?

I never said I agreed with any of the channels or their content if you read my comment closely.

I only against censoring freedom of speech and creating ideological echo Chambers.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by hedora »

ma2rten wrote: post #68
zzzcpan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

Google has well-documented ties to the US state dept at the highest levels of both organizations. For example:

https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/

There are many allegations in there, but the most salacious one is that Schmidt’s girlfriend was illegally working for Hillary on State dept matters. (I believe they made audio recordings of the phone calls that prove this, but can’t find the shorter write up anywhere).

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by r3vrse »

smnrchrds wrote: post #12

I wish they hadn't done this. Google has a unique and strict interpretation of US sanctions on countries like Iran and Cuba, much more strict than that of Microsoft or Amazon. If your site is hosted on GCP, Google blocks access to it from any sanctioned countries.

While this sentiment is applicable (and agreeable) now, I can't help but think it is a little short-sighted.

Can we really say will do or not do 'X', or has some immutable policy 'Y', with any reliability? Historically, have we not seen that these policies change with the direction of the wind, and/or are applied inconsistently to suit narrative 'Z'?

What is true today may not be true tomorrow. There is no bastion of moral decency in cloud infra, and to make decisions based on a current stance is facile and probably pointless.

I'm far more interested in what awareness the GitLab folks have of this issue, and procedures in place to mitigate it, if any.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by joshuamorton »

CryoLogic wrote: post #87
joshuamorton wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took a cursory look through those, and every one I looked at appeared to be claiming that Sandy Hook/Las Vegas/Anothy Bourdain's suicide/some other thing was fake and a conspiracy. Can you explain how "Sandy hook was faked and no children were killed" is a political view? Or how "Anthony Bourdain's suicide was faked for monetary gain" is somehow a political opinion?

I never said I agreed with any of the channels or their content if you read my comment closely. I only against censoring freedom of speech and creating ideological echo Chambers.

Here's your post:

>Here is just a small handful of YouTube channels censored based on their political views:

(emphasis mine)

I'm asking you to justify calling this censorship based on political views, like you claimed. I didn't say anything about your views.

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