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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by fierro »

zzzcpan wrote: post #15
miracle2k wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly right. Much more attention needs to be brought to this subject. Imagining Google Cloud having as much market share as AWS is downright nightmarish. It would break large parts of the internet in those countries. I regularly travel to Iran, and can attest to a large number of random breakages (for example: the documentation of the date-fns library, because it loads data from Firebase). Google as an infrastructu…

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

Just literally so wrong lol. Not even any citations or sources

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by _wmd »

tootie wrote: post #67
zzzcpan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

They voluntarily withdrew from China to avoid censorship even though they are now backtracking that decision. Amazon was the one providing facial recognition to law enforcement. I don't see any of them as clear "good guys" or "bad guys".

They withdrew from China due to the scorn of their security team having their asses handed to them by the people's liberation army ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora ). 3 years later the exact same thing happened with the NSA ( Snowden leaks, NYTimes front page quotes of Google engineers swearing at internal network diagrams appearing in the leaks ), only ragequitting your home country doesn't quite work so easily

Snark aside, the asymmetry in their dealings with foreign governments compared to their own is quite illuminating, and the above is by far not the only such incident

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by tanilama »

zzzcpan wrote: post #15
miracle2k wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly right. Much more attention needs to be brought to this subject. Imagining Google Cloud having as much market share as AWS is downright nightmarish. It would break large parts of the internet in those countries. I regularly travel to Iran, and can attest to a large number of random breakages (for example: the documentation of the date-fns library, because it loads data from Firebase). Google as an infrastructu…

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

Because they are targets of everybody, liberals and conservatives alike, even their own employees. Everybody want to have a piece of Google in the fuzz they intended to create just to advance their own agenda. I won't blame Google for playing safe

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

dictum wrote: post #38
lawl wrote: post #4

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Real backstory: https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-g...

It's less about getting away from Microsoft and more about getting closer to Google: https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/09/gitlab-raises-20m-series-c... While other commenters have criticized the "hidden truth" angle of this comment, I'd like to point out that some insiders may have foreseen GitHub aligning with MS a little earlier. I had a hunch, way before Microsoft announced the acquisition, that if GitHub was ever so…

Microsoft became and are extremely active on Github, but were they really uniquely endorsing it among large tech companies? AFAIK Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Netflix all run all their open source stuff through Github. Even Apple for the open source stuff they actually want people to use.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by miracle2k »

fierro wrote: post #70
miracle2k wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly right. Much more attention needs to be brought to this subject. Imagining Google Cloud having as much market share as AWS is downright nightmarish. It would break large parts of the internet in those countries. I regularly travel to Iran, and can attest to a large number of random breakages (for example: the documentation of the date-fns library, because it loads data from Firebase). Google as an infrastructu…

Talk about hyperbole. "Nightmarish" smh

Imagine the internet with all AWS data centers inaccessible to you.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by dawsmith »

mattlondon wrote: post #39

Anyone noticed any performance changes? Anyone from Gitlab have any data to share? I had a look at https://monitor.gitlab.net/d/000000003/fleet-overview?refres... but don't know what I am looking at :-) General browsing around feels snappier than it did before. I just tried importing some new repos from Github and it was fast (like 2 or 3 seconds for tiny repos, under 10s for larger ones). During the aftermath of the…

Dave from the GitLab.com infra team here. The numbers are obviously early, but we are seeing an improvement in p95 response times for all calls to api, web and git. In many cases they look to be 60-70% the times we saw for the same time Saturday last week. We expect to have real data as we go into the week and will share what we see with normal load from Monday.

We are working on a new public monitor page to share soon too.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by krn »

unit91 wrote: post #64
krn wrote: post #34

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OVH is probably the only major non-US based public cloud provider[1]. It also happens to be the host of Wikileaks. [1] https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/public-cloud/instances/

Coming soon to the USA. Scroll down to the map labeled "OVH Public Cloud regions" on the link you provided.

In fact, OVH Cloud[1] is already available in the US, but operates under an entirely separate legal entity to prevent from the access to non-US customer data[2].

[1] https://ovhcloud.com/

[2] https://www.ovh.com/world/a2294.how-ovh-will-balance-develop...

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by CryoLogic »

ma2rten wrote: post #68
zzzcpan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

I work at Google. Google can be very conservative and risk-averse in following regulations, but ask far as I can tell Google is one of the least pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military corporations in the world.

There are hundreds of instances of Google censoring websites, YouTube channels and plus accounts that promoted political philosophies that did not agree with the company culture. I think by that metric Google is very pro censorship when it comes to their own social media platforms

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Post by whoisjuan »

2_listerine_pls wrote: post #77

Maybe they want to be acquired by google

You doubt it? Google is an investor in GitLab. They also push heavily for GCP to their customers offering USD 200 free credits (above the USD 300 you get by default). Zero marketing mentions regarding integrations with AWS, Azure or any other cloud providers. I wouldn't be surprised if they are hostile in terms of integrating with other Cloud providers.

You even get marketing promotions about GCP in the consoles empty states. Sometimes it feels like a cheap Google adware. I cringe when I see so many Google references in GitLab.

GitLab is basically a subsidiary of Google Cloud at this point.

I really like GitLab since their service and user experience is top notch. I use it in all my side projects. I just wish they weren't so heavily biased to push and promote GCP. If they advertised themselves as a cloud agnostic and completely independent Git solution, I would be more trusting of their service. But the reality is the opposite. Sadly.

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