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Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Real backstory: https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-g...

Why does this dumb story keep getting posted on every GitLab thread? GitLab started the move to GCP way, way before the acquisition from MS happened. They are not related.

> Why does this dumb story keep getting posted on every GitLab thread?

I suspect it's because some people really like microsoft and are personally offended that a customer left.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Real backstory: https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-g...

Do you have any evidence backing that up? It seems unlikely that, say, Microsoft would endanger a large and growing business by artificially sabotaging GitLab in a way which would be quite obvious.

Who cares about evidence and "what's more likely". Would you host your product on your competitor's servers? I'm not saying that's why they switched, but from a business perspective it makes sense to remove that risk.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Exactly right. Much more attention needs to be brought to this subject. Imagining Google Cloud having as much market share as AWS is downright nightmarish. It would break large parts of the internet in those countries. I regularly travel to Iran, and can attest to a large number of random breakages (for example: the documentation of the date-fns library, because it loads data from Firebase). Google as an infrastructu…

Google is very pro-government, pro-censorship, pro-regulations, pro-military. It's better to just accept that it will never be a decent infrastructure provider because of that.

I know Amazon or Microsoft aren't much better, but it's sad to see Gitlab use Google. I though Gitlab are the good guys.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Wouldn't every US based company be under the same laws in regards to sanctions?

The legal requirements are lower. They are not allowed to sell hosting to persons from sanctioned countries for example, and all companies follow that rule. But interpreting the law to mean you cannot show hosted sites to visitors from those countries (like Google) or that you cannot allow downloads of free software from your website (like Oracle JRE) is an over-reaction only some companies do. The real reason is tha…

I'm not sure if that is the reason. It is rather puzzling. A lot of Google Products work just fine, say Google Mail. On the other hand, the whole Google developers site is inaccessible (including everything from Android, to their Chrome/HTML5 information site etc). US law clearly requires no such action on their part.

The don't earn money by letting packets from Iran route to their network; The people who could be losing money are their customers who's content is restricted.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Has anybody tried GKE and EKS from Amazon? What's your opinion on the later?

Here's a nice recent blog post about various issues you have to deal with to even set up a EKS cluster in AWS:

https://medium.com/@dmaas/setting-up-amazon-eks-what-you-mus...

I get the impression that compared to GKE, EKS is not yet fully baked as an easy to use product. It still involves too much manual fiddling around (e.g. see above) and operational complexity.

I'd advise any clients of mine who want to run Kubernetes in the cloud to stick to GKE for now. The lower prices on GKE are a nice bonus also.

That said, I don't discount what Amazon can do in this space. If they make the setup/admin experience as easy as spinning up a VM on AWS then Google will have a serious competitor. But not yet.

BTW, for smaller shops and solo devs, I hear good things about the upcoming Digital Ocean Kubernetes service. It's in beta right now:

https://www.digitalocean.com/products/kubernetes/

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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I wish they hadn't done this. Google has a unique and strict interpretation of US sanctions on countries like Iran and Cuba, much more strict than that of Microsoft or Amazon. If your site is hosted on GCP, Google blocks access to it from any sanctioned countries.

I would hope GitLab did research on its own customers to be confident that the benefit significantly outweighed any negative impact.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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I wish they hadn't done this. Google has a unique and strict interpretation of US sanctions on countries like Iran and Cuba, much more strict than that of Microsoft or Amazon. If your site is hosted on GCP, Google blocks access to it from any sanctioned countries.

I think Alex Jones is a fool and spews all kinds of garbage into the public discourse, but I don't know why he would be banned but not countries officially recognized as problematic by Google's governing authorities (the U.S. government).

That is "as long as it's legal" doesn't seem to be the governing principle for Google right now.

Re: GitLab is now running on GCP

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Why does this dumb story keep getting posted on every GitLab thread? GitLab started the move to GCP way, way before the acquisition from MS happened. They are not related.

> Why does this dumb story keep getting posted on every GitLab thread? I suspect it's because some people really like microsoft and are personally offended that a customer left.

Or it's just the penchant across Internet forums for the 'real truth.' Reddit is overflowing with it. People often like to believe they have knowledge that few others possess, special insight. They're not fooled by the mainstream media, they see around corners and through the guise, they've got it figured out. There's a massive culture for that today, which is where the Alex Jones, flat earth, etc. popularity boom comes from. Those people used to be a lot more isolated, now they can link up and spread their special insider knowledge, which leads to every story having an alternate 'real truth.'
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