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Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Syncthing is a great piece of software. I configured it on three of my machines in March and I've had zero issues since. In fact, it has worked so well that I don't even think about it. One of the machines even runs an old version found in Debian stable repos, but there has been no issues syncing with machines running newer versions. Only downside for me is that there's no iOS client.

Is Syncthing here to stay or will it morph into a nextcloud or a btsync or that ubuntu thing or be abandonner in 6 months ?

My impression is it's here to stay. I think I've been using it for about 2 years now. The protocol is completely open as well.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Home directory encryption via ecryptfs is now the default in most Ubuntu variants, and it would be insane not to attempt to support it. That said, given that my Dropbox subscription just renewed (and that Linux is pretty much the only reason I'm still using it, since there is no OneDrive client I can rely on), I am really sad this seems to be a future direction for Dropbox.

I use Google drive, but the Linux support was awful and I started using insync. It's about $25 for a lifetime license and I love it. I run Ubuntu with encrypted home and have for years. It works great and I highly recommend it, and I don't work there, just a happy user. The Nautilus integration is decent too.

I seldom use it, so I can't say how well it runs, but from Gnome version 3.22 if I'm not wrong, Google drive is integrated with Nautilus (the file manager) via GVfs/GIO and the couple of times I used it to share a file worked flawlessly.

YMMV ^__^;

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Why not run a small set of tests after installing and see whether the required set of FS features available? Experienced users run plethora of filesystems which support the needs of dropbox. IMHO, this is a lazy solution to a relatively simple problem.

Most likely Dropbox needs to set these limits so that they can allocate their quality assurance department to very thoroughly test what they claim they support. I'm an architect for a Dropbox competitor. Sometimes we need to draw a line in the sand for what we support, and what we don't support. This is mostly due to balancing cost / benefit. A customer may do something strange that we don't support, and we have to w…

From a QA point you're actually right. I don't think Dropbox needs to support all filesystems, but as a programmer and and advocate of better user experience, I'd like to see a system which behaves a little differently:

a- FS is something we support, great! Go on... b- FS is an unsupported one, so run the tests and if they pass warn the user: "Hey! We don't support this, but it looks like working. If it fails we can not support you. Are you sure? (Y/N)" c- FS is an unsupported one, so run the tests and if they fail tell the user: "Hey! We can not work on this FS, sorry.".

The good thing is you implement the tests once. Since, POSIX standard is a standard, so run the tests over that interface. You practically don't need to maintain anything about the tests. Maybe run a couple of unit tests over a simulated environment, that's all.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Its too bad there isn't a standard for Dropbox-like functionally yet. An RFC that everyone can write to.

Technically there is WebDAV. Yeah I know, but it's there and it's a spec. Another de-facto spec is rsync, iirc tarsnap was basically built on that. At some point there might have been even a business or two that offered rsync access.

You might be thinking of Duplicity -- it's based on rsync. Tarsnap works in a very different way.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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People I know who definitely have this problem tend to work in creative fields - especially musicians and (digital) visual artists. They almost universally have a bunch of files with names like project_final2_revised_reallyfinal3_with_edits_from_sally.psd. Of course, a solution that works well with all the different binary file formats people in those fields use wouldn't be easy.

Ah, that. Yes, absolutely I'd love for a solution that fixes that. It would definitely need to work with large files though, which categorically precludes Git. The first point, I think, would be building a delta engine with case-specific code for the most common ubiquitous file formats, like docx, xlsx, psd, etc. Of course it wouldn't be able to be perfect with everything but it would certainly be better than eg just…

It think it does need branching and collaboration. There needs to be a way for Sally to contribute those edits, and they might not actually make it in to the final result.

No doubt there would be a learning curve. I think that's OK. The target market here is serious users who already dedicate time to learning professional tools like Photoshop.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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I basically only use Dropbox because it is supported on Linux. Also its syncing technology is sooo much better than Google Drive you would think Drive was built by interns. However, they are taking their sweet time with newer features like Smart Sync. It's disappointing because I'm paying for these features and yet they're not supported on one of the platforms my whole company uses. All in all I really hope Dropbox d…

There's a decent open source sync daemon for OneDrive on Linux - I'm the packager who looks after it on Fedora. With the odd exception when APIs change it just works.

What daemon is that?

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Really? If you lose access to your dotfiles and OneNote notebooks for 5 or 10 minutes (that would be one long tunnel) that's completely unacceptable? This also sounds like a daily commute that could have easily been planned around if that time is really that important. Besides, when I work with Keybase I copy the files to my machine ahead of time to a local directory, so I likely would never notice such a drop in con…

Airplanes are a common case where people have long stretches without connectivity, either due to not paying for wifi or any if the other reasons it might be unavailable or unusable. Being on a NYC subway train is an even more interesting case, because depending on the precise client setup there's often intermittent or bad connectivity but rarely a good sustained connection between stations. As in most of the world, s…

Offtopic but Africa is not a country.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Is Syncthing here to stay or will it morph into a nextcloud or a btsync or that ubuntu thing or be abandonner in 6 months ?

My impression is it's here to stay. I think I've been using it for about 2 years now. The protocol is completely open as well.

Cool, are there third-party apps beside the official ones ? That would be a strong indicator.
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