Inside the Business of Dog Cloning • Hacker News Board

Re: Inside the Business of Dog Cloning

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Post by icebraining » Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 12:37 PM UTC

jillesvangurp wrote: post #20

samfisher83 wrote: post #14

The Chinese have cloned a monkey. I am wondering who will be the first to clone human. Maybe the Chinese have already done it but are keeping quiet about it. Its a Brave new world.

Keeping it quiet might be a thing given the moral outrage this would trigger. The main obstacles here are access to donor eggs and surrogate mothers willing to carry. This may already have happened. Additionally, failure rates acceptable with dogs and livestock are going to cause moral outrage. Though if you look at IVF, the success rates there are not great and it is considered acceptable anyway. Never mind the disc…

Why is cloning more narcissistic than regular procreation? We produce half-clones already, this is just adding the other half.

Re: Inside the Business of Dog Cloning

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Post by r_smart » Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 12:41 PM UTC

discreditable wrote: post #30

r_smart wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have two rescues and think it is good if people adopt more of them, but I also thinks it's wrong to shift the moral condemnation to people who want dogs (puppies, clones or whatever) from whoever is abusing these dogs in the first place. I'm not angry when nobody wants to adopt a dog, I'm angry because somebody treated them so poorly in the first place. Owning a dog isn't a human need, so getting one just to treat…

As a rescue dog owner this article made me wonder how different he could be if I had the chance to raise him with love instead of neglect. Then I realized a clone would look the same but it could be an entirely different dog otherwise.

Yeah, I got wondering the same things. One of our dogs is getting older, and we love her so much. I wouldn't, and couldn't afford to, do something like this, but I can understand why people might.

How different would she end up? There are a lot of mannerisms that seem pretty common to beagles, and then there's some of the weird stuff she does that is unique to her. Would we lose all that? Would it feel weird having a dog that looked just like her but acted different?

Re: Inside the Business of Dog Cloning

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Post by doctorRetro » Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 12:43 PM UTC

alonmower wrote: post #3

I have a dog, have lost dogs in the past, and understand how sad it is. But man, there are so many dogs in shelters getting killed because of overcrowding that it boggles my mind that people can be so selfishly fixated on their needs that they don't think about the costs of their decisions (suffering of the surrogate dogs, the clones that don't make it, and the disgustingly high monetary costs here). Life is full of…

Agreed, agreed, agreed. Given that cloning an animal doesn't recreate the personality - same goes for Humans, of course - if you miss your beloved Rex, there's zero guarantee you'll get another Rex if you clone him, which sort of defeats the purpose. And the number of shelter dogs is heart breaking. Give one of them a good home.