Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC • Hacker News Board

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by e1ven » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:10 PM UTC

sfarnan wrote: post #35

davesque wrote: post #28

The problem, at this point, is that I think the average person must find all this very tiresome. Let's set aside all the theories about whether or not Musk is actually a stable genius for doing everything he's done lately (including calling one of his critics "pedo guy"). With everything that's going on in the world today, I just don't have the energy to keep up with all this grandstanding. The result? I'm sick of he…

How’s this Elon’s fault? He’s endlessly criticized in unjustified ways. That guy didn’t reasonably critize Elon’s plans, he instantly attacked his motives and said to stick his submarine up his rearend. And 10% of Thailand’s GDP is based on the sex industry or $6.4 billion a year. “Pedo” is kind of a misused connotation but when people get attacked their impulse is to respond with a personal attack. It’s not a “meltd…

I don't think davesque's comment said anything about "fault".

He said he's gotten tired of all these stories about Tesla and Musk, so he's unlikely to buy a Tesla now.

That's a statement about davesque and how his frustration is souring him on the brand. Fault doesn't really play into it.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by toyg » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:10 PM UTC

taobility wrote: post #21

confiscate wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose the CEO of a publicly trading company CAN act like the President of the United States? Seems like a good strategy actually. The strategy got Donald Trump the Presidency. (edit): why all the downvotes? I realize my comment might have come off as sarcastic. Sorry that was not my intent--I just wanted to point out something I noticed.

Lol, a private company CEO should be more serious than USA president?! At least I didn't see from where Trump is not serious about his tweet.

> a private company CEO should be more serious than USA president

We live in interesting times. Statistically speaking, a jackass CEO is born every minute, whereas a jackass POTUS is very, very rare.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by mandeepj » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:11 PM UTC

davesque wrote: post #28

The problem, at this point, is that I think the average person must find all this very tiresome. Let's set aside all the theories about whether or not Musk is actually a stable genius for doing everything he's done lately (including calling one of his critics "pedo guy"). With everything that's going on in the world today, I just don't have the energy to keep up with all this grandstanding. The result? I'm sick of he…

Maybe, Musk is also sick of all of this. This is why he is trying to take his company private

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by dang » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:11 PM UTC

MuskMania has reached information heat death: it can generate nothing new on its own. See the thread below for a good example.

Since this article doesn't supply enough new information to get us out of that state, we're treating it as a dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17709543.

When significant new information arises (note: not the same thing as the next provocation), then there will be something to discuss.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by Krasnol » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:12 PM UTC

sfarnan wrote: post #35

davesque wrote: post #28

The problem, at this point, is that I think the average person must find all this very tiresome. Let's set aside all the theories about whether or not Musk is actually a stable genius for doing everything he's done lately (including calling one of his critics "pedo guy"). With everything that's going on in the world today, I just don't have the energy to keep up with all this grandstanding. The result? I'm sick of he…

How’s this Elon’s fault? He’s endlessly criticized in unjustified ways. That guy didn’t reasonably critize Elon’s plans, he instantly attacked his motives and said to stick his submarine up his rearend. And 10% of Thailand’s GDP is based on the sex industry or $6.4 billion a year. “Pedo” is kind of a misused connotation but when people get attacked their impulse is to respond with a personal attack. It’s not a “meltd…

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Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by archagon » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:13 PM UTC

sfarnan wrote: post #35

davesque wrote: post #28

The problem, at this point, is that I think the average person must find all this very tiresome. Let's set aside all the theories about whether or not Musk is actually a stable genius for doing everything he's done lately (including calling one of his critics "pedo guy"). With everything that's going on in the world today, I just don't have the energy to keep up with all this grandstanding. The result? I'm sick of he…

How’s this Elon’s fault? He’s endlessly criticized in unjustified ways. That guy didn’t reasonably critize Elon’s plans, he instantly attacked his motives and said to stick his submarine up his rearend. And 10% of Thailand’s GDP is based on the sex industry or $6.4 billion a year. “Pedo” is kind of a misused connotation but when people get attacked their impulse is to respond with a personal attack. It’s not a “meltd…

He's a CEO, not a 12 year old boy, FFS.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by Krasnol » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:13 PM UTC

theDoug wrote: post #39

atombender wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's "the problem". There's plenty of demand for the cars. Elon Musk fatigue may be a real thing, but that's more related to the news cycle (and the Twitter cycle), in my opinion, than Musk himself.

I wonder why the media new cycle keeps making him say outlandish stuff! What do the majority of other company CEOs have over the entire industry and Twitter to somehow appear to be quietly doing their job?

If you cry for attention when times are good, you shouldn't complain about attention when times are bad.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by dragontamer » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:15 PM UTC

eanzenberg wrote: post #34

dragontamer wrote: post #16

> Of course the SEC is looking into this. I can’t think of a thing that the SEC would look into more. If Warren Buffett was giving insider tips about accounting fraud at the Fed to Lloyd Blankfein so that he could help Donald Trump and the pope insider trade against the Illuminati, the SEC team investigating that would be scheming to get transferred to the Elon Musk team. Obviously, this is a silly article. But the p…

Probably because it's not quite an opinion piece. A buyout at this massive scale would've been rumored by now by the potential suiters. The only other alternative is single-buyers who are willing to put up that much personal capital, also highly unlikely.

> Probably because it's not quite an opinion piece.

Then why is it published on the "opinion" section of the website? https://i.imgur.com/qjmJqaK.png

Its an opinion piece. A writer from Bloomberg offers their opinion on an issue, as opposed to the facts. Its very important to know when you're reading an opinion vs reading a journalism post.

Most media (even Fox), does a decent job with the journalism pages. Its the opinion pieces where all the bias comes in. Still, opinion pieces are useful to see what people out there are thinking. Its important to know what the viewpoints are.

But most opinion pieces "dress up" the facts to suit their argument, as opposed to reporting precisely on the facts.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by bishnu » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:15 PM UTC

sfarnan wrote: post #35

davesque wrote: post #28

The problem, at this point, is that I think the average person must find all this very tiresome. Let's set aside all the theories about whether or not Musk is actually a stable genius for doing everything he's done lately (including calling one of his critics "pedo guy"). With everything that's going on in the world today, I just don't have the energy to keep up with all this grandstanding. The result? I'm sick of he…

How’s this Elon’s fault? He’s endlessly criticized in unjustified ways. That guy didn’t reasonably critize Elon’s plans, he instantly attacked his motives and said to stick his submarine up his rearend. And 10% of Thailand’s GDP is based on the sex industry or $6.4 billion a year. “Pedo” is kind of a misused connotation but when people get attacked their impulse is to respond with a personal attack. It’s not a “meltd…

Musk didn't seem to mind when the media cycle fawned over him endlessly.

Hype comes with scrutiny. Nobody put a gun to Musk's head and told him to appear on talk shows, to cameo in Hollywood blockbusters, etc. If he wasn't prepared to make that tradeoff he shouldn't have done it.

Re: Musk’s Money Mystery Intrigues SEC

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Post by imron » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:17 PM UTC

eanzenberg wrote: post #34

dragontamer wrote: post #16

> Of course the SEC is looking into this. I can’t think of a thing that the SEC would look into more. If Warren Buffett was giving insider tips about accounting fraud at the Fed to Lloyd Blankfein so that he could help Donald Trump and the pope insider trade against the Illuminati, the SEC team investigating that would be scheming to get transferred to the Elon Musk team. Obviously, this is a silly article. But the p…

Probably because it's not quite an opinion piece. A buyout at this massive scale would've been rumored by now by the potential suiters. The only other alternative is single-buyers who are willing to put up that much personal capital, also highly unlikely.

Larry Page is on record a few years back saying he'd give his fortune to Musk rather than donate it to charity [0].

I imagine Musk has a handful of billionaire friends he could probably hit up for cash. Throw in some money from SpaceX, and he could probably make the buyout price.

0: https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-page-elon-musk-2014-3