Python 3 is now available on App Engine standard environment • Hacker News Board

Re: Python 3 is now available on App Engine standard environment

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Post by jtatfh » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 2:53 PM UTC

stewart27 wrote: post #68

optimusclimb wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're an existing AppEngine standard user/customer, it's pretty likely that that means you will not be able to take advantage of PostgreSQL, as the new runtime does NOT give you access to a ton of their existing services that you are probably already using (such as datastore.)

Hi optimusclimb -- just want to make clear that using Cloud SQL to connect to PostgreSQL should work using Python 3.7 on the App Engine standard environment. Your earlier comment accurately pointed out a gap in our docs. We're going to address that -- thank you. If you try Cloud SQL and find that it doesn't work with PostgreSQL on this new runtime, that's a bug and we need to fix it.

I think what he's saying is you're currently using Python 2.7 on Standard and using existing built-in services like task queue, memcache, ndb, etc then switching to the new Python 3.7 runtime (to be able to connect to Postgres) runtime really isn't possible since there aren't non-rewrite solutions for those missing pieces.

Re: Python 3 is now available on App Engine standard environment

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Post by Rapzid » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 3:31 PM UTC

e12e wrote: post #40

Rapzid wrote: post #16

I believe the title should be updated to say 3.7 as the article title does. The .7 is pretty significant to those who would be interested in this.

Any highlights of why 3.7 is significant vs 3.6,3.5,3.4?

Yes, on these pages: https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.5.html .

Of significant interest to people who are stuck/like writing Python would be the async changes in 3.5 and 3.6. There have also been constant type annotation enhancements made throughout the 3.x releases.

Re: Python 3 is now available on App Engine standard environment

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Post by aleaxit » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 3:38 PM UTC

wasd wrote: post #55

aleaxit wrote: post #50

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For Cloud Tasks, https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/python/apis... should help.

Thanks! Unfortunately, there's a link to Cloud Tasks API on that page that 404s and there's not much else info on it. As far as I can tell, it's alpha. Maybe I can find the Google Next presentation on it.

The links to APIs I see on that page are https://developers.google.com/resources/api-libraries/docume... and https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/python/ , both work for me. The latter in turn points to https://cloud.google.com/tasks/ (Tasks Alpha) which also works for me. Maybe it only works for customers enrolled in the limited-access Alpha and as a Googler I'm automatically enrolled without knowing that...? But, I can also see the latter in an incognito window in Chrome...

Re: Python 3 is now available on App Engine standard environment

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Post by wasd » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 4:14 PM UTC

aleaxit wrote: post #83

wasd wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Unfortunately, there's a link to Cloud Tasks API on that page that 404s and there's not much else info on it. As far as I can tell, it's alpha. Maybe I can find the Google Next presentation on it.

The links to APIs I see on that page are https://developers.google.com/resources/api-libraries/docume... and https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/python/ , both work for me. The latter in turn points to https://cloud.google.com/tasks/ (Tasks Alpha) which also works for me. Maybe it only works for customers enrolled in the limited-access Alpha and as a Googler I'm automatically enrolled without knowing tha…

Last link doesn't work for me. Tried multiple devices and browsers. Just 404s. I didn't find the first two links very helpful.