I never knew ocd had anxious thoughts to them. I thought they were thoughtless compulsions.
The terrible 'what if': how OCD makes every day a matter of life or death
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#52I will never forget one day I opened Hacker News, and the top story was about a 30-year-old programmer named Jonathan (also my name, and I'm 29) who found out about his terminal cancer spreading throughout his body. This was one of many trigger moments in my life.
I struggle against health anxiety. Specifically, I am obsessed with dying young from cancer.
I am not diagnosed with OCD, but health anxiety presents very similar behaviors.
When I feel particularly vulnerable to a specific kind of cancer, I tend to research and wrap my head around probabilities, prevention, and everything I can to hedge myself against that cancer. I'm constantly checking in with small pains in my body.
I have chronic back issues (partially because of my posture while working). Pain exacerbates the anxiety.
For the first two months of this year, I couldn't hold my infant son without ending up on the edge of tears, because I was emotionally convinced I would die before I ever had the chance to see him grow up.
One understated effect of OCD and anxiety is the feeling of guilt you can foster because of your own behavior.
My wife's father recently went through a battle with pancreatic cancer. It was a complete rollercoaster. He ended up having the unlikely type, in a good way - he is now cancer free. But one moment stands out to me: when she came to tell me about what they had found. She started out by telling me, "I don't want to trigger your anxiety..." This both broke my heart and made me feel understood.
This is something that really has more influence on life than you expect. I feel for those of you who struggle with OCD, anxiety, and any other mental health issues. I don't have an answer, other than you are not alone. You're not isolated. You aren't the first to experience this, and you can live your life WITH the struggle, even if it feels impossible.
Seek help. Surround yourself with people who love you and want to understand and help. Don't seek reassurance; seek acceptance.
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#53I'm one of the "chronic checker" types. I used to be really bad about checking and rechecking door locks, particularly, but also the fridge and the garage. If I check absentmindedly and without intention, I'll have to do it all over again. What really helped me get out the door in the morning, and still does, is actually to video myself doing it. When I got a Palm Zire 72, for the first time I could actually leave wi…
That's a really interesting take on the positive aspects of OCD and one that's not often discussed. Thanks for sharing. :)
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you pressed a button then it wasn't automatic.
That's a moot point given that: > I realized that my entire bathroom could be done without me touching anything so I could keep myself clean.
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#55I'm one of the "chronic checker" types. I used to be really bad about checking and rechecking door locks, particularly, but also the fridge and the garage. If I check absentmindedly and without intention, I'll have to do it all over again. What really helped me get out the door in the morning, and still does, is actually to video myself doing it. When I got a Palm Zire 72, for the first time I could actually leave wi…
> The damnable thing about OCD is that a little is very valuable in my regular line of work (medicine). Without it I wouldn't be as careful, I don't think. It means it won't let me take shortcuts and it forces me to be thorough, and that's a very good thing in that business. That's a really interesting take on the positive aspects of OCD and one that's not often discussed. Thanks for sharing. :)
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for sharing. The complexities of the human brain will never cease to amaze me. There should be a way, in all this neuronal maze, to escape those compulsions, but I bet it's really well hidden.
I would want to measure dietary Taurine levels in the body for a start. Experiments consuming 3g/day have shown no side effects, but your main source is limited to energy drinks so you have to contend with caffeine, and Taurine does not last long in the body (can start to be expelled in urine within 10mins), much like many of the water soluble chemicals classed as vitamins or minerals. Cooking actually destroys it fr…
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#57I've OCD and i was on a verge of complete failure. Untill a friend recommended me to try Ashwgandha (Withania somnifera) After that my life completely changed positively. I've lost my anxiety since then. I usually take it with a glass of milk. Now, I've very less stress.
Can you elaborate a bit on how to find it and how it changed you?
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#58My significant other was always “germ conscious”; clean hands, no shoes in the house, etc. Nothing over the top or alarming. However, over the years, there have been huge shifts in behavior and routine in regards to keeping clean. This person has made the house the “clean zone”. All attempts are made to avoid contamination from the outside world.
The routines in the house start with the notion that you are dirty if you’ve been outside. “Outside” isn’t inherently dirty, so things like yard work and actual dirt are okay. Basically, if you’ve driven anywhere, you’re dirty. Anything that you or your clothing touches (while dirty) must be cleaned. If it’s the floor, it must be cleaned immediately to avoid tracking germs through the house.
The dirty rules apply to everything. Anything brought into the house from outside is dirty and must be cleaned before use.
Strictly speaking, the basement is dirty. Touching (nearly) anything means that your hands are now dirty. Shoes or slippers must be worn before going downstairs.
Shoes must be removed before coming in the house, but you can’t step where your shoes have been...otherwise your feet are dirty also. Sandal wearers must wear socks in the house.
We have guests over, but all walkways must be cleaned after they’ve left. Any surfaces they touched or sat on are cleaned as well.
Work days must end with a shower and change of clothing after coming home. It doesn’t have to happen immediately, but one can’t sit on furniture and should be careful not to contaminate anything.
The furniture, floors, cabinets, handles and counters see regular cleaning with either lysol wipes, alcohol wipes or lysol spray.
One larger issue stems from the fact that my spouse is a medical professional and is fearful of transmission of things like MRSA. While there is a real concern there, I’m of the opinion that the cleanliness routine is too extreme. This person does not typically do not work in a hospital, but when they do, they have a routine that must be followed.
- The car must be sanitized
- Shoes are removed outside and sanitized
- Clothing is removed in the basement and put into the wash immediately
- Person showers, which unfortunately means a naked stroll across the house from the basement all the way to the bathroom.
- Clothing is washed again
- The washer is now washed
After drying on the line, the clothing is washed again and the line is sanitized
All items on the person (jewelry, purse, bags, phone, pens, etc…) must be sanitized
This behaviour has slowly gotten worse since we started living together. The logic is consistent, but new behaviours are constantly being added. Where I’m really beginning to become concerned is that we recently had a child. I’m hopeful that this will encourage positive change, as some behaviors aren’t sustainable with a antsy child. But, I’m concerned that they will get worse and that the child will pick up on these behaviours.
Early signs of concern with the child: The showering rule applies to everybody. So, somebody has to hold the baby while the other showers. You can’t put the baby anywhere, because that would be dirty now as well. This has already become problematic now that the baby is almost three. Basically, somebody is stuck with a squirmy kid that you can’t put down for upwards of 20 minutes.
ANY attempt at discussing this has been met with extreme hostility, to the point where I’m afraid to mention or question the germaphobia.
I try to be very patient, but I believe that I've enabled too much of this behavior for fear of sacrificing a happy household.
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#59I’m using a throwaway account and trying to keep personal details sparse to keep this as anonymous as possible. Also, despite my frustration with the situation, I’ll attempt to be as neutral as possible. My significant other was always “germ conscious”; clean hands, no shoes in the house, etc. Nothing over the top or alarming. However, over the years, there have been huge shifts in behavior and routine in regards to…
When you mention the hostility, what kind of things were said? How does your spouse justify their behaviour?
It sounds like there are attributes both of OCD and OCPD, and that makes for a very tough combination.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't it make sense if all humans were along a continuum (possibly non-linear) with regards to OCD symptoms? Pick a point somewhere on that continuum; "normal" to the left, "OCD" to the right.
While this is somewhat true, it can easily lead to the idea that mental health problems aren't serious because they are just further along a scale than me. We all have kidneys that don't work perfectly, so we are all on a continuum of kidney failure, however you'd describe some people as having kidney failure and others not, only a few people would be 'borderline'. I appreciate that may not have been what you meant,…
I think it's incredibly useful to realize that all of us experience symptoms of anxiety and depression, intruding thoughts and compulsions, but those who with the problems are just those further along the line. It's not diminishing the issue, it's humanizing the sufferer. They aren't "crazy", they are suffering from something we all can relate to, but just in a manner that's unmanageable.