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The greatest marketing trick the NYT has ever pulled off is presenting themselves as the last bastion of objectivity in the trump era. Nothing could be further from the truth. I think the most recent Sarah Jeong controversy and virtually all reporting on migration, feminism, campus politics etc shows this. Mind you this is from a European perspective where I see almost all reporting about politics here as copying off…

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post #73

I subscribed the moment they hired Susan Flower (susanthesquark). We often call for the boycott of bad actors so we should reward the good actors, I feel. I couldn't subscribe again when they hired Sarah Jeong (sarahjeong) but if I could, I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Can you say more about why it's a good thing that they hired Sarah Jeong, who has a history of racist and sexist tweets?

It's interesting, I wasn't at all aware of her until a day or two ago. The first link I read about her was this:

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/3/17644704/sarah-jeong-new-york-t...

Which shows her "racist" tweets, and shows how they're only really racist if you strip away all context for them. It then shows how the alt-right use this as a tactic.

I found that very interesting, and I also now find it interesting to see who comments on these. Do you think Vox -- without attacking it as a source here -- is wrong that these Tweets have been read out of context? Were you aware that they were? Why do you repeat this talking point?

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#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These numbers are usually completely off. There is no standard basis or reliable determination for them, and it's in every publishers interests to quote as high as they can get away with. Buying traffic from cheap ads can easily get you millions of "readers" who just hit the page from various IPs and leave some cookies around.

That's not true. Basically all periodicals' circulation numbers are independently audited, because nobody will buy ads from them without an audited figure. Only the very smallest fly-by-night publications self-audit.

Readers != circulation. Many hotels, coffee shops, airports, libraries, offices, and hundreds of other business subscribe, but it has nothing to do with who actually reads anything.

Also that number is mostly quoting digital viewers, which are not audited at all.

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#114
post #73

I subscribed the moment they hired Susan Flower (susanthesquark). We often call for the boycott of bad actors so we should reward the good actors, I feel. I couldn't subscribe again when they hired Sarah Jeong (sarahjeong) but if I could, I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Can you say more about why it's a good thing that they hired Sarah Jeong, who has a history of racist and sexist tweets?

Yes please explain why its a good thing to subscribe again to a news site that defends someone who wants to #CancelWhitePeople? Are you suddenly pro free speech because the hate is directed at white people?

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#115
post #73

I subscribed the moment they hired Susan Flower (susanthesquark). We often call for the boycott of bad actors so we should reward the good actors, I feel. I couldn't subscribe again when they hired Sarah Jeong (sarahjeong) but if I could, I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Can you say more about why it's a good thing that they hired Sarah Jeong, who has a history of racist and sexist tweets?

It's sad to see (judging by up / down votes) that this community supports the endorsement of a racist (Jeong) and down votes who questions that. She said some seriously awful things, and the NYT's decision to hire her should be called into question.

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#116
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. How does it verify that you're a SF resident?

It doesn’t seem to ... that link worked from here in Fremont.

Yeah, I seem to have gotten access from Seattle. Sweet!

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#117

Offtopic: I am a European, and I like to read quality journalism. Which do you recommend, a subscruption to Washington Post or NYT?

I really like The Guardian. You can also pick different version between international/uk/us, so from that perspective you have plenty of choice.

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#118

The greatest marketing trick the NYT has ever pulled off is presenting themselves as the last bastion of objectivity in the trump era. Nothing could be further from the truth. I think the most recent Sarah Jeong controversy and virtually all reporting on migration, feminism, campus politics etc shows this. Mind you this is from a European perspective where I see almost all reporting about politics here as copying off…

The NYT keeps popping up on UK focused subreddits in the last few months with articles extremely critical of our conservative politicians.

I knew NYT by reputation but never knew they took such an interest in another countries politics. Is there really an appetite for this content across the pond?

If they're trying to appeal to a broader international market then they seem to be doing a good job. Personally if i want X person bashed for 2000 words i already have far too much choice as is.

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#119
post #4

Why would anyone subscribe to NYT when the content is readily available online behind a trivially bypassed paywall?

There's a few companies -- NYT, The Economist, WashPo -- that I pay for, and then spend time bypassing their paywalls, because their implementations are so irritating.

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#120

The greatest marketing trick the NYT has ever pulled off is presenting themselves as the last bastion of objectivity in the trump era. Nothing could be further from the truth. I think the most recent Sarah Jeong controversy and virtually all reporting on migration, feminism, campus politics etc shows this. Mind you this is from a European perspective where I see almost all reporting about politics here as copying off…

Being a liberal (the philosophy) is equivalent to being neutral and objective according to all the mainstream media, which are all liberals.
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