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Re: Firefox Offers Recommendations with Latest Test Pilot Experiment: Advance

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If the privacy settings are right for this, I'm very excited. This is exactly the kind of feature I would like to use but don't because it involves sharing so much of my browsing.

Looks like there is no privacy. They either get everything and you get the service, or you disable it.

I know it says you can "request" info get deleted, but I'm not going to bet a quarter on that working.

Re: Firefox Offers Recommendations with Latest Test Pilot Experiment: Advance

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post #3
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If the privacy settings are right for this, I'm very excited. This is exactly the kind of feature I would like to use but don't because it involves sharing so much of my browsing.

Looks like there is no privacy. They either get everything and you get the service, or you disable it. I know it says you can "request" info get deleted, but I'm not going to bet a quarter on that working.

I imagine that when you request data deleted it’s only anonymized, and the actual learning data is kept.

Re: Firefox Offers Recommendations with Latest Test Pilot Experiment: Advance

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I'm confused about a couple of things. First, the tech. So my browsing history is sent over the internet to a third party who comes up with recommendations via some magic opaque system? Can some recommendations be prioritized by how much you pay this third party? I have all sorts of questions about Laserlike's use of the data, but I guess I can dig for myself. Sure, you can say "well, don't use it" but this is more about the health of internet users in general, not just me.

Second, the reasoning. Why? Is Mozilla altruistically trying to help people find new things similar to what they're looking at on the internet? Is this really a problem begging to be solved? What is the relationship with this third party company Laserlike? Which way is money changing hands and how? How do resources get allocated to projects like this as opposed to any other (i.e. curious about prioritization)? From the outside looking in, it seems to have little value, but of course that's why you test these things. It just seems like a strange direction to put resources in.

I personally hope this experiment fails and people do not use their browsers for webpage-like things such as recommendations. This is not the browser's role and I'm becoming increasingly concerned at what larger companies think the browser's role is vs little ole me. My only reason for not wanting it to fail is I know that people put work into it.

Re: Firefox Offers Recommendations with Latest Test Pilot Experiment: Advance

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Since there are a lot of more hyperbolic articles from "ghacks" and similar ilk going around, I feel compelled to point out straight away that this is explicitly opt-in.

You not only have to install the Test Pilot addon, which is not installed by default, but you then have to enable the experiment.

The sky is not falling just because they're offering something like this locked behind two separate opt-in steps.

Re: Firefox Offers Recommendations with Latest Test Pilot Experiment: Advance

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Since there are a lot of more hyperbolic articles from "ghacks" and similar ilk going around, I feel compelled to point out straight away that this is explicitly opt-in. You not only have to install the Test Pilot addon, which is not installed by default, but you then have to enable the experiment. The sky is not falling just because they're offering something like this locked behind two separate opt-in steps.

> I feel compelled to point out straight away that this is explicitly opt-in.

Now.

> The sky is not falling just because they're offering something like this locked behind two separate opt-in steps.

They did the same scam with Pocket. Now, tell me how to disable that again?

Re: Firefox Offers Recommendations with Latest Test Pilot Experiment: Advance

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Since there are a lot of more hyperbolic articles from "ghacks" and similar ilk going around, I feel compelled to point out straight away that this is explicitly opt-in. You not only have to install the Test Pilot addon, which is not installed by default, but you then have to enable the experiment. The sky is not falling just because they're offering something like this locked behind two separate opt-in steps.

> I feel compelled to point out straight away that this is explicitly opt-in. Now. > The sky is not falling just because they're offering something like this locked behind two separate opt-in steps. They did the same scam with Pocket. Now, tell me how to disable that again?

> Now, tell me how to disable that again?

You can disable it in about:config.

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