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Is there something that can be done about our polarized discourse without trampling over our civil rights? I think this is necessary dialogue.
Disincentivize for-profit news.
Leaked white paper proposes U.S. Congressional regulation of social media
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Excellent: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/datprotocol/whitepaper/mas... It seemed too simple of an idea not to already be done. Hopefully it conceals your IP. Arg. Nope. It does not. It leaves it up to the client to decide how best to request the content, and by default that almost certainly guarantees no privacy.
It was not intended to provide privacy, the the distributed data store. If you want privacy you probably just want to have a private swarm, which is perfectly fine to setup. Just implement a client with a whitelist or another mechanism for the privacy you want.
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Surely you realize that making data a liability reduces the ability for you and I to host it, not increases it. I understand you are against centralization of data, but you can't magically commoditize and distribute it via punishments. You'll only strengthen those that can take a hit. While it seems mathematically logical to say "well, if we make it less financially beneficial to have data, they won't have it" what h…
Yeah I don't want to be hosting data I have not vetted either. I think being aware of the content any device you own is serving on the net is a good thing, even if it reduces the amount of people willing to do it for others. TBQH if small companies cannot host user data that is good too. It should be very difficult for companies of any size to house data they are not willing to defend legally.
We just disagree here. We know who can and who can't defend things legally. On a personal level, I don't like my options further reduced for who I can willingly give my data to. Legislate and determine what constitutes private data, data misuse, and/or surreptitious gathering if you want, but non-private information freely and consentually given should want to be freely proliferated.
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Excellent: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/datprotocol/whitepaper/mas... It seemed too simple of an idea not to already be done. Hopefully it conceals your IP. Arg. Nope. It does not. It leaves it up to the client to decide how best to request the content, and by default that almost certainly guarantees no privacy.
It was not intended to provide privacy, the the distributed data store. If you want privacy you probably just want to have a private swarm, which is perfectly fine to setup. Just implement a client with a whitelist or another mechanism for the privacy you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL37ZVnwpeshG2YXJkun_lyNT...
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Is there something that can be done about our polarized discourse without trampling over our civil rights? I think this is necessary dialogue.
First stop blaming the Russians and then tell your parties to work for the country and for themselves. I think best would be if people stopped calling themselves "Republicans" or "Democrats" and stopped identifying with a party.
No, not going to stop blaming the guilty, including the Russians.
> and then tell your parties to work for the country and for themselves.
I've found that politicians in both major parties have the second part down pretty pat, so I’m more concerned with the first.
> I think best would be if people stopped calling themselves "Republicans" or "Democrats" and stopped identifying with a party.
I think it would best if people learned that—whether it's a country or a party—identifying with a group doesn't mean uncritical acceptance of everything done by the group, it's leaders, etc. OTOH, I see no reason for people not to identify with the major party that best represents them, given the nature of our political system, even if they are both trying to reform that party and the underlying system.
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#66I doubt this would help. Judging by my Facebook feed Americans are perfectly capable of vicious, polarized discourse without foreign influence. In fact this may backfire as it would allow the hateful in society to have more of a right to preach on these platforms as no one would be able to accuse them of being foreign trolls. Its probable that this level of discourse is here to stay and that the previous elevated, co…
It is probably a job for the next generation rather than this one; this generation wasn't ready for this boom of communication we are living in; all these social platforms where created for the economical benefit of their creators (FB, twitter) and not any sort of societal benefit; so yeah I think that the solution must start from early school years where children should be taught to doubt all sources of information…
I definitely think we will look back on my generation (Generation Y) as the guinea pigs for this whole "connected social world" thing. So far it's been too much, too fast, and we have done an abysmal job handling it.
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I’ve been working on that. It’s a hard problem, but emule works quite well. I propose something based on that: when you start a program, you advertise all the sha256’s of all the files you share. Whenever you need a resource, you send a request to the dht for its sha256. Anyone who has the file will opportunistically try to send it to you. Since it’s a dht, there’s nothing to take down. And since it operates on sha25…
I think a cool layer on top of this would be to create a P2P network where you can 'friend' certain peers and produce a reddit-like aggregation of new content from various sources. - Friend another user by adding their key and IP to a trust group. - When your client boots up, it connects to friend nodes and downloads their recent DHT. - DHTs from all friends are summed to sort the hashes by descending frequency, perh…
0 - https://github.com/cretz/tor-dht-poc 1 - https://github.com/cretz/software-ideas/issues/6 2 - https://github.com/cretz/bine 3 - https://github.com/cretz/yukup/tree/master/yukup/pb/proto
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Obscenity isn’t protected by the first amendment. Obviously there is disagreement over what is and isn’t obscene.
> Obscenity isn’t protected by the first amendment. Right, I must've missed the "except for obscenity" clause. Oh wait, there isn't one... that's just something the courts made up out of thin air. The freedom of speech includes all speech, even obscene speech. It is never appropriate to respond to speech with force.
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Yeah I don't want to be hosting data I have not vetted either. I think being aware of the content any device you own is serving on the net is a good thing, even if it reduces the amount of people willing to do it for others. TBQH if small companies cannot host user data that is good too. It should be very difficult for companies of any size to house data they are not willing to defend legally.
> TBQH if small companies cannot host user data that is good too. It should be very difficult for companies of any size to house data they are not willing to defend legally. We just disagree here. We know who can and who can't defend things legally. On a personal level, I don't like my options further reduced for who I can willingly give my data to. Legislate and determine what constitutes private data, data misuse,…
In the short term it might result in less variety, but only until the tech proliferated and reached maturity. Then services could simply spin up on top of the data that you already host yourself. So you would have to take on the responsibility of finding a good way to host the data you want available (probably from your phone), but after that you would be able to use any service willing to operate on your data, but your data would be in public standards, not proprietary storage inside a facebook/google/amazon data center.
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I think a cool layer on top of this would be to create a P2P network where you can 'friend' certain peers and produce a reddit-like aggregation of new content from various sources. - Friend another user by adding their key and IP to a trust group. - When your client boots up, it connects to friend nodes and downloads their recent DHT. - DHTs from all friends are summed to sort the hashes by descending frequency, perh…
You and I must have like minds. I have even created an anon DHT PoC [0], conceptualized how the messaging might work [1], made a lib to use Tor easier since it's the best anon nat buster these days [2], began toying with a superset of reddit/slack/forums/etc (some grpc files at [3] and some impl in that same repo), and a bunch of other small things in order to arrive at this final destination. 0 - https://github.com/…