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Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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The 50% of people who didn't vote basically have said, we don't care to choose. So they got exactly what they voted for.

Or they didn't see a viable candidate that represented their interests and decided to abstain. This is a legal right.

Yes, because as we all know, both sides are exactly the same.

/s

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

Also from snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russian-asbestos-trump_fac... >Did a Russian Asbestos Company Put Trump’s Face on Their Product? >A Russian asbestos producer shared a photograph of their product to social media with a seal of Donald Trump’s face and the text "Approved by Donald Trump”.

Wow, is that not the single best photo summing up the current state of affairs?! Straight out of a James Bond movie. It's got pallets full of poison, red Russian labeling, the cartoonish president himself! Can it get any more sinister?? I thought for sure that it must have been 'shopped!

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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A few years ago I might have agreed with you. The fact that the electoral college allowed a person with absolutely no political experience who's primary accomplishments were several failed businesses and some TV spotlights to be president of the United States is an absolute fucking glowing failure. Donald Trump IS the person the electoral college was put in place to stop. They did not do their job. The electoral coll…

> Donald Trump IS the person the electoral college was put in place to stop. Wrong. It was put in place to stop someone who was only popular in urban areas. You need to carry a majority of states in order to represent the states. There are plenty of other checks to "stop" (curb) the power of the office. The voters can have a big say whether or not those should be invoked this November.

"You need to carry a majority of states in order to represent the states"

The states have never had an equal number of electors, so I believe your claim is false.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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This makes sense as asbestos only really causes harm when humans come into contact with it. For applications where it is safely enclosed or mixed with another material it may have its uses. I think analysis on a case-by-case basis is the right way to go.

Leaded paint is only really dangerous if you pry it off the wall and swallow it. Who would do that?

Kids do that. The paint chips even have a sweetish taste to it.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/07/11/a... Or we can get to the real reasons why and get downvoted and flagged regardless.

I want to read that, do you know of a good non-paywalled link?

Google it. No seriously. Multiple articles. It's all over Reddit.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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Im seeing a lot of comments on brakes containing asbestos. As an automotive engine mechanic, I started my trade changing out brake pads. As far as im aware, the last generation of asbestos containing brake pads in the US were Ferodo Brake Pads ending around 1994. The pads were phased out for a number of reasons - health, of course. as a mechanic, mesothelioma was your biggest risk changing brakes all day. most shops…

Asbestos brakes are also the reason why blowing out undercarriages, wheel wells & rims w/ air pressure is illegal. Does your shop not have a sign directing anyone who observes such behavior to report it? Pretty sure in the US, it is mandatory to post in commercial garages in plain sight.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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I say it's a feature, not a bug. Reducing everything to a popular vote is just a feel good way of describing mob rule. The electoral college and equal Senate representation acts as a tempering force on said mob.

A few years ago I might have agreed with you. The fact that the electoral college allowed a person with absolutely no political experience who's primary accomplishments were several failed businesses and some TV spotlights to be president of the United States is an absolute fucking glowing failure. Donald Trump IS the person the electoral college was put in place to stop. They did not do their job. The electoral coll…

I think any opinion predicated on the purpose of the electoral college at this point is invalid. That's because it was originally intended to allow the states to choose independent electors, but since they are now bound by the statewide popular vote, any effect of that is unrelated to the original purpose.

The fact that sometimes they elect the candidate who did not win the national popular vote is simply a bug in the evolved system, and all defenses of it are post-hoc rationalization motivated by the assumption it will continue to favor Republicans.

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This is so true. We should just ban lobbying because it is only used by rich corporations and individuals.

I've always looked at money's influence in politics as a sort of balanced system, like the house and senate. We need both equal access to politics and proportional access to politics based on resources. Otherwise, democracy devolves into two me's and a Jeff Bezos voting on who pays for my stuff.

But now you have one you and 10000 Jeff Bezos' voting on how much tax Amazon should pay. Doesn't seem much better.

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So, what exactly happened? The EPA was founded by a republican (Nixon). Yet environmental efforts are now attributed to democrats. And combined with that, is that republicans was to destroy the very org they made? What am I missing out of this? Why did the parties completely change their face?

>So, what exactly happened? The elites enact the laws they want. They are tired of protecting the public's health when there are 7 billion people and the goal of the Georgia Guidestones clearly states a reduction in population is a goal. This is why so many mutagens and pseudo-estrogens are being purposely placed into food and products in order to saturate the environment. The elites believe that mutations create uni…

This website is NSFW.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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Or they didn't see a viable candidate that represented their interests and decided to abstain. This is a legal right.

Your interests are going to be represented by one of the two major party candidates, whether you like it or not. And even if you're firmly on the side of "do not like," one of those candidates is almost certainly going to be less worse than the other. Maybe you think both of them have authoritarian tendencies, but only one of them openly talks about the press as the enemy of the people and tacitly encourages their fo…

It's the candidates job to win my vote. If neither win my vote what am I supposed to do? Vote for someone I don't like at all? Why should I have to do that? People who don't vote have been roughly 45-50% of the voting bloc in recent history [1].

As a Democratic Socialist learning towards Socialist, neither Hillary nor Trump represented really any of my views. Pretty much none at all to be honest. Both were terrible people, and terrible candidates.

[1] http://www.electproject.org/2016g

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