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Re: Taking Tesla Private

#101
> as the most shorted stock in the history of the stock market

does this squeeze beats the VW one?

>First, I would like to structure this so that all shareholders have a choice. Either they can stay investors in a private Tesla or ...

given the potential number of shareholders wouldn't there still be pretty tough information disclosure requirements - isn't such required disclosure is among the major factors pushing companies into public market?

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#103
It's a sign public equity markets aren't structured well that companies aren't encouraged to think long term. The most successful companies in today's markets don't even allow common shareholders to control the company, ie Google and Facebook with their special classes of controlling shares. We might need to reconsider changing laws around choosing board seats or requiring shareholders to have minimum holding times in order to align incentives better for the long term.

If public equity markets don't work, the alternative is more and more of wealth creation happening privately, in startups funded by VCs, private equity, or family owned businesses. The public won't get to participate.

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#104
My take is he needs to do this in order to keep and attract the talent Tesla needs. Stock was way too volatile while rest of the tech industry has been going hockey stick.

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#105
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Second, my intention is for all Tesla employees to remain shareholders of the company, just as is the case at SpaceX. If we were to go private, employees would still be able to periodically sell their shares and exercise their options. This would enable you to still share in the growing value of the company that you have all worked so hard to build over time. How does this work as a private company?

This is not an uncommon arrangement in companies that plan to remain private forever, or just have no rush to IPO. Without some exercise clause, it's hard to compete with public tech companies on compensation: I've seen way too many people stuck in companies that they've worked on for 4-5 years, but when leaving meant throwing away all the stock compensation, as the costs of exercise are not affordable without a seller.

Typically companies in those situations have investors from earlier rounds that want to increase their holdings, and the board doesn't have a problem letting get a percentage or two of extra shares, so they create some kind of liquidity opportunity, with the company serving as an intermediary between the employees and the investors.

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#106

I don't like the guy (and it's obvious from my comments), but this move is brilliant on so many levels. The short sellers just got taken to the cleaners, badly . By taking the company private, he's under less public and regulatory scrutiny. It's probably easier for him to raise money privately, and there seems to be sufficient interest. Tesla's employees, who are probably pretty much worn out, got a nice pay day. And…

Just go ahead and like the guy!

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#107
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> CNBC reports that none of the Wall Street banks it contacted were aware of any transaction or had committed to funding a leveraged buyout of Tesla.

So there's the real story. Who is this financer (or group) with ~40 billion in capital that is willing to bet long on Tesla? That's really interesting to me, if Musk is being truthful here.

Totally, totally random thought, but I figured I'd record it, even though it doesn't seem to make sense.

Bezos?

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#108
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a heavy TSLA short-seller, you're already in deep trouble, unless this falls through very quickly. There will be margin calls. Welcome to the losing side of short-selling.

It only falls if Elon is bluffing. He’s guaranteed $420 / share.

He’s not guaranteeing anything. He hasn’t mentioned financing to do this, and it’s not a small amount of money to raise. Shareholder approval isn’t a given either. It’s probable that he’d get the votes if he showed the financing necessary for a $420 stock price, but it’s not a guarantee.

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#109
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> As a public company, we are subject to wild swings in our stock price that can be a major distraction for everyone working at Tesla, all of whom are shareholders. Being public also subjects us to the quarterly earnings cycle that puts enormous pressure on Tesla to make decisions that may be right for a given quarter, but not necessarily right for the long-term. > SpaceX is a perfect example: it is far more operatio…

Going private, wouldn't it be a bigger distraction for everyone working at Tesla to wonder whether they can find a private buyer or not for their shares and what their shares are actually worth?

Re: Taking Tesla Private

#110

Instead of taking it private, what's stopping Tesla as a company from buying back shares from public market when the price is low? It not only stabilize the price it is also have long term benefit if the company is confident for the future.

Tesla lacks the cash to buy its own stock, no matter the price. The cash would come from private equity.
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