US companies giving in to pressure from China
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US companies giving in to pressure from China
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Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#2It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our morals since then?
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#3It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
By morals, do you mean your specific brand of self-righteous extremism?
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#4It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
It remembers me a book: The Best Enemy Money Can Buy, by Antony C. Sutton.
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#5It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
Hacker news has been overtaken by evil insect-like people that hate freedom, and goodness itself.
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#6It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
It's important to remember history a bit. Google left China[0] after it was hacked as part of Operation Aurora[1]. It had been serving a censored version of Google Search from 2006-2010.
[0] https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-approach-to-chin...
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#7It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
I don't find it odd or wrong that companies are abiding to the law when they offer services within a certain jurisdiction.
Google pulled out because of hacking and attacks against their services, if I remember correctly.
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#8It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
I think there are a lot more Chinese on HN now then 2010. Also, it is increasingly clear that any action to get China to open up and liberalize more can’t come from the private sector due to a successful policy of economic engagement (and some say entrapment) by the Chinese.
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#9Boeing and other traditional high-skill/tech manufacturers have been giving away their to China technology for years.
CEOs/Boards/State don't care though, its all about next quarter's numbers.
Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China
#10It's not just companies, it's US people too. The original HN thread on this subject ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660872 ) had a truly depressing percentage of comments saying "No big deal" using some combination of whataboutism, false equivalence and simple fatalism. I seem to remember that when Google first pulled out of China the reaction among HN types was much more positive; what has happened to our m…
Hacker news has been overtaken by evil insect-like people that hate freedom, and goodness itself.
This statement is delusional in the context of Google offering a censored search product. People in China who mind will leave China, most don't mind according to Confucianism values, this policy is not going to change because nerds in North America disagree with it, and neither is Google.