Earlier quoted context omitted.
Selection bias: the crowd on /r/linux is likely not representative.
Why not? Do Emacs users usually use other OS than Linux?
They prefer other community technologies than reddit.
Where Vim Came From
61–70 of 265 posts
Re: Where Vim Came From
#62It's amazing we have Bill Joy to thank for not only C shell and much of BSD, but also VI.
C shell could have been the de facto standard had the parser not been buggy as hell and had there been proper facilities for stdin and stdout like in Bourne shells.
tcsh is my default shell, but I never program in it because of “C shell considered harmful”[1]. I write my programs in original Bourne shell instead for maximum portability.
—
Re: Where Vim Came From
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
One reason I switched from Emacs was because it took longer to launch
I don't see this gets mentioned much but this is one of the larger reason I never use emacs. When quick editing files on remote servers, snappiness is really nice, even with bunch of plugins activated.
You use it wrong. You're supposed to keep your local emacs running and use tramp to login to the remote server. That way you still have your emacs config with you and don't have to load it again.
What vim users don't seem to understand is: I never restart emacs. Mine stays running for weeks, even months at a time. When I change my emacs config I just run the code. I don't restart emacs.
Re: Where Vim Came From
#64> While Emacs certainly still has a following, some people think that the Editor Wars are over and that Vim won.16 The 2018 Stack Overflow Developer Survey suggests that this is true; only 4.1% of respondents used Emacs. I'm an Emacs user for years now and love the editor. But I'm curious about this claim of its poor popularity. The article refers to a piece from http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Bea…
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6ihxua/officially_se...
Stupid poll. Due to the limited options, people who use neither editor seriously have voted vim simply because they know about it. Also it can't be denied that vim is the hipster editor, used by the same kind of people that use reddit. People that use emacs, like me, do not vote in polls on reddit.
Re: Where Vim Came From
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see this gets mentioned much but this is one of the larger reason I never use emacs. When quick editing files on remote servers, snappiness is really nice, even with bunch of plugins activated.
You use it wrong. You're supposed to keep your local emacs running and use tramp to login to the remote server. That way you still have your emacs config with you and don't have to load it again. What vim users don't seem to understand is: I never restart emacs. Mine stays running for weeks, even months at a time. When I change my emacs config I just run the code. I don't restart emacs.
[deleted]
Re: Where Vim Came From
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see this gets mentioned much but this is one of the larger reason I never use emacs. When quick editing files on remote servers, snappiness is really nice, even with bunch of plugins activated.
You use it wrong. You're supposed to keep your local emacs running and use tramp to login to the remote server. That way you still have your emacs config with you and don't have to load it again. What vim users don't seem to understand is: I never restart emacs. Mine stays running for weeks, even months at a time. When I change my emacs config I just run the code. I don't restart emacs.
> You use it wrong
Self-deprecating humor ?
https://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-ipho...
Re: Where Vim Came From
#67Re: Where Vim Came From
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6ihxua/officially_se...
Stupid poll. Due to the limited options, people who use neither editor seriously have voted vim simply because they know about it. Also it can't be denied that vim is the hipster editor, used by the same kind of people that use reddit. People that use emacs, like me, do not vote in polls on reddit.
> Also it can't be denied that vim is the hipster editor, used by the same kind of people that use reddit
/r/vim subscribers: 54,406
/r/emacs subscribers: 22,701
If anything it seems like emacs users are over represented on reddit :)
Re: Where Vim Came From
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6ihxua/officially_se...
Stupid poll. Due to the limited options, people who use neither editor seriously have voted vim simply because they know about it. Also it can't be denied that vim is the hipster editor, used by the same kind of people that use reddit. People that use emacs, like me, do not vote in polls on reddit.
> Also it can't be denied that vim is the hipster editor, used by the same kind of people that use reddit.
I'll deny it. I doubt there is any kernel of truth to that sentence at all.
~ Emacs user who frequents Reddit
(though not the tech subreddits because I get enough of that stuff here)
Re: Where Vim Came From
#70> While Emacs certainly still has a following, some people think that the Editor Wars are over and that Vim won.16 The 2018 Stack Overflow Developer Survey suggests that this is true; only 4.1% of respondents used Emacs. I'm an Emacs user for years now and love the editor. But I'm curious about this claim of its poor popularity. The article refers to a piece from http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Bea…
Completely anecdotally I've ever met two person who used Emacs and handful of people who use vim. At my current job I'm the only one who uses vim as my main tool, but collegue sitting next to me is the other Emacs user. Although some poeople have started to dabble in vim every now and then. I guess people just run into vim more often in the wild.
Relatedly, the emacs users I’ve met were 10+ years older than me (so far).
Also, a huge number of other editors have vim keybindings as an option or plugin: intellij, eclipse, visual studio - the list goes on forever...