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YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
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Re: YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
#22Prediction: Jones will be back on all these platforms before 2019.
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#23From Wikipedia: "The InfoWars website receives approximately 10 million monthly visits, making it more visited than some mainstream news websites such as The Economist and Newsweek." This bothers me. Say what you like about his content, but it is not fringe. He is the preferred "thinker" of a significant fraction of the population. If you think the solution is to deplatform him, you're thinking about the problem wron…
You have more faith in human rationality than I do at this point. Making his content harder to get will reduce his legitimacy. Con men and frauds should not be treated with respect or debated. Also, Jones specifically used his platform to abuse people, so this is not just about being full of shit all the time.
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#24I have mixed feelings about this. I fear it will actually make Jones' brand of demagoguery and crackpot theories more appealing and sexy. The best thing to do might be to let far-right conspiracy theory propaganda die in the mainstream, since the mainstream is where things go to die.
Pardon me, if I misunderstood you. Jones is already mainstream. He is not going to get smaller if you give him bigger platforms. Unrelated question. Can somebody explain to me, how he went from "9/11 was inside job, police are jackbooted thugs, anti Bush, anti Obama" to being pro police, pro government? I want to understand the logic behind this.
>logic
Unfortunately your question starts with an untenable premise ;)
Re: YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
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Re: YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Raise his platform. Discuss him. Debunk his ideas one by one. You use whichever tools appeal to you" You are assuming this would actually have an effect. Given recent history I am pretty sure people would A) Not see your debunking because it isn't in their little echo chamber of targeted fitlered online news and content. B) Wouldn't believe you or critically think about any debunking anyway. There is a reddit bot th…
If you can't persuade his base, then I guess you're not the person whose job it is to persuade his base. Be patient. One will come.
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Re: YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
#27The default SafeSearch filter for Google is turned OFF. That tells you all you need to know about their morals.
Re: YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
#28Prediction: Jones will be back on all these platforms before 2019.
Why?
Re: YouTube Bans Alex Jones, Following Facebook's and Apple's Lead
#29From Wikipedia: "The InfoWars website receives approximately 10 million monthly visits, making it more visited than some mainstream news websites such as The Economist and Newsweek." This bothers me. Say what you like about his content, but it is not fringe. He is the preferred "thinker" of a significant fraction of the population. If you think the solution is to deplatform him, you're thinking about the problem wron…
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"Raise his platform. Discuss him. Debunk his ideas one by one. You use whichever tools appeal to you" You are assuming this would actually have an effect. Given recent history I am pretty sure people would A) Not see your debunking because it isn't in their little echo chamber of targeted fitlered online news and content. B) Wouldn't believe you or critically think about any debunking anyway. There is a reddit bot th…
If you can't persuade his base, then I guess you're not the person whose job it is to persuade his base. Be patient. One will come.
No, it is not that simple.
Your argumentation rests on the assumption that people are convinced only through reason. There are several professions and industries that work just by considering that to be naive.
Prejudices, herd mentality, fear, anger and a lot more biological drives are the main drivers of most people beliefs. "Reason" is just a make up and varnish they apply to make it less ugly.