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Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Surprised with the naming, did Google just miss a great opportunity for collaborating with candy manufacturers like they did with Nestle for Android 4.4 'KitKat'?

me too, but what would be a world-renowned candy that starts with 'P'?

I was pulling for (unbranded) Petit four

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petit_four

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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> App Actions is a new way to raise the visibility of your app and drive engagement. Actions take advantage of machine learning to surface your app to the user at just the right time, based on your app's semantic intents and the user's context. Aside from the unnecessary jargon, this irks me how it portrays the user as some passive consumer. It really drives home how Google is, first and foremost, an advertising comp…

>Aside from the unnecessary jargon, this irks me how it portrays the user as some passive consumer. It really drives home how Google is, first and foremost, an advertising company.

It's amusing that you're taking a quote from the Android Developer blog (a blog, you know, for developers) and trying to misconstrue it as a public facing comment for users.

Here's their public facing comment that is aimed at users:

Android 9 also helps you get things done faster with App Actions, which predicts what you’ll want to do next based on your context and displays that action right on your phone. Say it’s Tuesday morning and you’re preparing for your commute: you’ll be suggested actions like navigating to work on Google Maps or resuming an audiobook with Google Play Books. And when you put in headphones after work, you may see options to call your mom or start your favorite Spotify playlist.

https://www.blog.google/products/android/introducing-android...

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My feelings exactly, Google literally plays catch up to Samsung in terms of features in it's OS and it's phones. So really I feel sorry for those poor people using Pixel 2 XL which has been slowed down to a crawl by the updates Google pushes out on the regular.

Are you talking for all of us XL 2 users ? Not a single slow down on mine, thanks. Was on beta the first day it was available.

No sorry, you might have gotten lucky. But a few major YouTubers have reported this slowdown and I really have no data to back this up.

I'm glad the Pixel 2 XL works for you! I just have a personal grudge against the pixel line of phones are they compete with OEM's directly without bringing good hardware to the table (except that god tier camera of course)

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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post #36

> We partnered with DeepMind on a feature called Adaptive Battery that uses machine learning to prioritize system resources for the apps the user cares about most. You know what mind I would like to control what apps get more resources? Me

Not most people though. There was a time when in MacOS, one could manually limit the amount of memory a program was launched into by setting the required and preferred memory footprint. But that kind of low-level stuff isn't something most people care about or want to do. They just want the damn thing to work.

I see your point that most people don't want to dig into the nitty-gritty details, but I don't think it'd hurt to be able to mark applications as High, Normal, or Low priority for memory and CPU use.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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post #17

* It looks like they've taken away the "apps" homerow button and swapped it for "swipe up from anywhere". So that is one less gesture available to apps, unless you install an alternative desktop. * Wi-Fi RTT sounds pretty neat, I had not heard of that before. * Shutting mic, camera and sensor data off for idle/background apps is neat, though I'm shocked that wasn't an option before.

It also looks like the back button is gone... how is that supposed to work?

Running it on my Pixel 2XL, the new navigation pill is strictly optional.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely the headline features here are the machine learning everything, not really the UI tweaks?

You're right, but Samsung features go beyond UI changes. I am locked into the Samsung ecosystem by a few of these intangibles. Like: Samsung Pay (works on credit card readers) Samsung DeX (Chromebook in your pocket) Samsung Pass (auto fill with Iris scanning) Some of these features are made by other companies like, Huawei makes a Chromebook style UI too, but Iris scanning and Magnetic Payments are exclusive to Samsun…

> Samsung Pay (works on credit card readers)

I hadn't heard of that before. That's pretty cool.

"Magnetic Secure Transmission (MST) is a technology that emits a magnetic signal that mimics the magnetic strip on a traditional payment card. MST sends a magnetic signal from your device to the payment terminal's card reader (to emulate swiping a physical card without having to upgrade the terminal’s software or hardware)"

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00043865/

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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post #17

* It looks like they've taken away the "apps" homerow button and swapped it for "swipe up from anywhere". So that is one less gesture available to apps, unless you install an alternative desktop. * Wi-Fi RTT sounds pretty neat, I had not heard of that before. * Shutting mic, camera and sensor data off for idle/background apps is neat, though I'm shocked that wasn't an option before.

It also looks like the back button is gone... how is that supposed to work?

In the event you don't like the new gesture based navigation system you can always revert back to the traditional Back, Home, and Recents layout in settings.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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I'm no longer surprised that Samsung doesn't feel the need to update to the latest version of Android! Grace UX (their skin) already had all of these features as of last year. I do not see anything worth upgrading for here. Potentially huge for people buying the notched phones. The support for that did improve in this update.

Curious what others think of samsung hardware on HN. Ive had: >S5 phone whos charging port broke and had terrible battery life. But hey, when I bought the phone the screen was bright and beautiful... I feel like I was tricked >My SSD failed in a year >My grandpa's 1,000 dollar samsung TV he bought in 2018 has an irresponsibly slow smart TV. And I read some horror stories about samsung home appliances when I was looki…

> And I read some horror stories about samsung home appliances when I was looking to buy them last year.

I can add to that. From a previous comment: "I actually just replaced a 3 year old Samsung Electric Dryer. The heat was no longer working, and I suspect it was the heating element. To access the heating element required me to: - Take off the control board - Take off the entire top of the dryer - Take out the door - Take out the Front panel - Take out the drum I only figured this out after finding a service manual, as I did not want to risk destroying a dryer to figure out how to fix it. A new heating element was $80 off the grey market. I wanted to see how much it would be to get it fixed by a service place, and any service place I went to wanted to charge $100 just to look at it!

When I saw a new dryer was $400, I just decided I did not want to deal with it anymore and bought a new dryer.

I will not be buying Samsung products again. "

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