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Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by agorabinary »

markus92 wrote: post #8
mkirklions wrote: post #4

And this is how FAANG ends up destroying democracy in Europe like our lobbyists destroyed our democracy in the US. These words are dangerous to the life of these companies. I can easily see (trillion dollar) companies starting various forms of political donations in EVERY country. Google cannot afford to lose its euro market, but google can afford to buy policies. EDIT: Whats the criticism? For the first time in huma…

Too bad campaign contributions are heavily regulated in Europe. It's a bit harder to buy politicians here.

You can't regulate corruption, by definition

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by afsina »

I think this is all about money really. EU lost the tech war so they try to make winners life so hard so that they could either squeeze more money from them or enforce some government supported - controlled inferior products to replace them. These may be the excuse key words: "protecting civil rights, hate speech, terrorism, privacy"

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by delecti »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #5

Disappointed that Macron is following the old french playbook here. Was under the impression that he was a more of a liberal guy. Unfortunately german conservatives are useless when it comes to internet regulation (see "Mitstörerhaftung", making platforms and operators of wifi access points liable if their users commit crimes), not sure how much resistance can be expected.

> Mitstörerhaftung

Without knowing anything about what that is, I'm having a lot of trouble looking up anything about what that is. Most of the links about that seem to be in German, and the ones in English are talking about it too tangentially to get any meaning from context clues.

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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peteretep wrote: post #3

This article is a bizarre set of weird talking points, trying to tie together a conspiratorial narrative through such breathless facts as: > To lock down his influence in Brussels, Macron needs to make sure he has sufficient clout to weigh on commissioners’ nominations, an objective he can only achieve via a broad voting bloc in European Parliament. His centrist La République en Marche (LRM) party is at work forging…

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Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by afsina »

markus92 wrote: post #8
mkirklions wrote: post #4

And this is how FAANG ends up destroying democracy in Europe like our lobbyists destroyed our democracy in the US. These words are dangerous to the life of these companies. I can easily see (trillion dollar) companies starting various forms of political donations in EVERY country. Google cannot afford to lose its euro market, but google can afford to buy policies. EDIT: Whats the criticism? For the first time in huma…

Too bad campaign contributions are heavily regulated in Europe. It's a bit harder to buy politicians here.

You have too much fate on politicians and government regulations.

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by Tomte »

delecti wrote: post #13
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #5

Disappointed that Macron is following the old french playbook here. Was under the impression that he was a more of a liberal guy. Unfortunately german conservatives are useless when it comes to internet regulation (see "Mitstörerhaftung", making platforms and operators of wifi access points liable if their users commit crimes), not sure how much resistance can be expected.

> Mitstörerhaftung Without knowing anything about what that is, I'm having a lot of trouble looking up anything about what that is. Most of the links about that seem to be in German, and the ones in English are talking about it too tangentially to get any meaning from context clues.

It's a general legal concept that is mostly famous in one application: people having open (non password-protected) WiFis were considered to have full liability if some user misused their WiFi breaking copyright laws.

The conservatives and social-democrats finally got around to kill this by law (although there are some fine details that are still not good), and the highest court basically affirmed this change, applying it even retroactively.

But grandparent is not proposing a coherent argument, he's just expressing his dislike for the conservative party.

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by jstewartmobile »

afsina wrote: post #12

I think this is all about money really. EU lost the tech war so they try to make winners life so hard so that they could either squeeze more money from them or enforce some government supported - controlled inferior products to replace them. These may be the excuse key words: "protecting civil rights, hate speech, terrorism, privacy"

It's much more than that. If you believe what Assange wrote--or even if you don't--these American companies must comply with the legal (and not-so-legal) requests of our various surveillance apparati.

Having a foreign Google integrated into their web activities as much as we have a domestic Google integrated into ours is a threat to their own sovereignty.

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by simion314 »

afsina wrote: post #12

I think this is all about money really. EU lost the tech war so they try to make winners life so hard so that they could either squeeze more money from them or enforce some government supported - controlled inferior products to replace them. These may be the excuse key words: "protecting civil rights, hate speech, terrorism, privacy"

Similar with rules to traffic, the rules are there for the cops to make some pocket money not not for our safety /s

I think is easy to see that you need to always had some new rules when someone finds a way to do harm to the society, I am sorry that the rules makes some billionaires have a few less billions.

Re: Macron Wants to Rein in Silicon Valley, from Brussels

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Post by megaman22 »

afsina wrote: post #12

I think this is all about money really. EU lost the tech war so they try to make winners life so hard so that they could either squeeze more money from them or enforce some government supported - controlled inferior products to replace them. These may be the excuse key words: "protecting civil rights, hate speech, terrorism, privacy"

The thing is, the winners have the money to put up with any amount of onerous hoop-jumping that the EU tries to put in place. For the non-established players, the cost and liability of all this shit is too high to break in.
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