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Freeing the Web from the Browser
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Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#32Most saddening, perhaps, is the way in which the Web constrains the use of links. For example: although the link is the primary form of reference on the Web, underpinning the tangle of connections that make the system so useful, the ability to create new links is a privilege granted only to content producers. The vast majority of those interested in a piece of work are merely readers, unable to contribute, only to co…
" it's the Comments section of any blog-shaped site." Something I never read on any site. It's just pure racism/muppets talking shit. If there were a plugin to block them I'd use it; I feel dirty even knowing they're down there. L
I always read them on any site. I want to know even about racism and muppets talking shit, rather than be surprised when it appears in real life. And usually it's just real people, living real comments, from their own viewpoints.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#33Great to see those ideas discussed! It is a little strange, however, that Ted Nelsons ideas around Xanadu and its link representations aren't even mentioned.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#34Great to see those ideas discussed! It is a little strange, however, that Ted Nelsons ideas around Xanadu and its link representations aren't even mentioned. https://youtu.be/hMKy52Intac?t=1m44s
Check the full dissertation, they are.
https://www.reinterpretcast.com/pdfs/savage-j-dissertation-2...
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#35One way would be to create a browser/portal(combo) that only indexes webgl/wasm apps for example. and you could still visit the info page about that app via a normal browser but would have to install the specific browser. the irony is that walled garden might have a valid use case (not to wall from a vendor, but to wall us from old tech)
Sounds like we can achieve this with a browser plugin, not sure we need a whole new web just yet:)
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#36oh boy it's the semantic web all over again. it's appalling the lack of citations of the copious corpus that exists and the fact that it's never named for what it is.
"what is really lacking — in my view — is research considering the human factors at play"
there you go, if someone is interested in the topic, some citation back from 2005 which should be enough to find more references and research http://kmr.nada.kth.se/papers/SemanticWeb/HSW.pdf (they even have a workable concept browser, go figure)
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#37I would love a web where you can comment with your forum circle on any URI available on internet. Eg. I open some research paper and I click "comments" in web browsers. And I see comments from /r/machinelearning, hackernews etc. Also real time chat would be awesome to have for each of websites. Nowadays it work for me like this - found something interesting X - type "X site:myforum" in google to learn more about it F…
There's several browser plugins that work that way, I think the main obstacle is you need everyone on it. also that theres not a lot of activity spread across the whole web, resulting in stale discussions.
Google reader I think had this social thing built into it. It wasn't just an RSS reader.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#38Comments and feedback won't work for a site with a lot of readers or viewers, they don't scale. If just 20k people read your post, and one-quarter of them comment, you'll be flooded and not able to find anything meaningful. I'm already following some YT channels where the creator(s) has stated, "we can't read the comments, requests here are ignored."
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#39I would love a web where you can comment with your forum circle on any URI available on internet. Eg. I open some research paper and I click "comments" in web browsers. And I see comments from /r/machinelearning, hackernews etc. Also real time chat would be awesome to have for each of websites. Nowadays it work for me like this - found something interesting X - type "X site:myforum" in google to learn more about it F…
If I'm not mistaken Volunia search engine had this very features, it lets you join community and start discussing with other users on the same URL you're at the moment.
Re: Freeing the Web from the Browser
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
it would just require that common web platforms allowed their current comment systems to attach comments to paragraphs in the article, and show these comments as side notes I think that's a somewhat view of what a user contribution could look like. Adding feedback is great, but imagine what the web could be if users could do more than just comment. I'd love to see a blog application that supported user contributions…
How is that different from a wiki? :-) Mediawiki, the software behind Wikipedia, already has all those features, includeming the possibility of moderation by privileged users or automatic updates, on a per-page basis. You'd just need to use the software for blog content rather than encyclopedic content.
How is that different from a wiki?
Every app is a CRUD app if you ignore enough detail.