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Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

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Post by kahlonel »

eerikkivistik wrote: post #10
andreyk wrote: post #8

A good thing to read to know the basics of the game and what to pay attention to: http://smerity.com/articles/2018/n_things_to_look_out_for_in...

I watched the game against audience members, and the bots seemed to overextend at times. Also weird courier scouting glitches (which makes sense if all couriers are currently invulnerable for the purpose of this generation of bots). Another funny thing was watching them use smokes for no apparent reason.

They overextended in the enemy safelane. Maybe killing the enemy carry is #1 on their priority list :D

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

#12

Post by eerikkivistik »

kahlonel wrote: post #11
eerikkivistik wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched the game against audience members, and the bots seemed to overextend at times. Also weird courier scouting glitches (which makes sense if all couriers are currently invulnerable for the purpose of this generation of bots). Another funny thing was watching them use smokes for no apparent reason.

They overextended in the enemy safelane. Maybe killing the enemy carry is #1 on their priority list :D

Yeah, I was thinking more in the lines of the aftermath, after diving – getting stuck in the forest behind the enemy tower. But you are correct, they seemed hella determined to get that Slark kill!

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

#13

Post by eerikkivistik »

minimaxir wrote: post #9
ionwake wrote: post #4

hi,does anyone know if openAI release an up to date state of learning for their open AI dota code? Basically can I run the same sim on my laptop and watch them play? I can see some code on Github but dont know if the actually neural net data is available too. If anyone knows the answer that will be great thanks

Even if they did release the likely-very-big model, your personal computer is likely not fast enough to make 2-3 actions per second (x5) and update weights in real time without a beefy GPU.

I think the model itself could probably run on a PC with 64gb of RAM/VRAM (Well okay, it would be an unorthodox personal computer, I guess my point is, you could probably fit it in a Single computer, not one you have at home though). Training it definitely not possible without a large cluster.

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

#14

Post by FartyMcFarter »

eerikkivistik wrote: post #10
andreyk wrote: post #8

A good thing to read to know the basics of the game and what to pay attention to: http://smerity.com/articles/2018/n_things_to_look_out_for_in...

I watched the game against audience members, and the bots seemed to overextend at times. Also weird courier scouting glitches (which makes sense if all couriers are currently invulnerable for the purpose of this generation of bots). Another funny thing was watching them use smokes for no apparent reason.

Ward usage also seemed strange. At some point the bots put a sentry ward inside the top enemy tower's range - not sure if they gained anything from it at all.

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

#15

Post by ionwake »

minimaxir wrote: post #9
ionwake wrote: post #4

hi,does anyone know if openAI release an up to date state of learning for their open AI dota code? Basically can I run the same sim on my laptop and watch them play? I can see some code on Github but dont know if the actually neural net data is available too. If anyone knows the answer that will be great thanks

Even if they did release the likely-very-big model, your personal computer is likely not fast enough to make 2-3 actions per second (x5) and update weights in real time without a beefy GPU.

Thank you for the reply minimaxir - are you sure a 2015 macbook pro cannot run a compiled version of the neural net so it can play itself on my computer?

Just wanted to double check - can someone else verify this before I spend weeks seeing if I can get it to work?

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

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Post by eerikkivistik »

FartyMcFarter wrote: post #14
eerikkivistik wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched the game against audience members, and the bots seemed to overextend at times. Also weird courier scouting glitches (which makes sense if all couriers are currently invulnerable for the purpose of this generation of bots). Another funny thing was watching them use smokes for no apparent reason.

Ward usage also seemed strange. At some point the bots put a sentry ward inside the top enemy tower's range - not sure if they gained anything from it at all.

I think the idea there was to take tower hits so they can keep pushing without taking hero damage. And delaying until the next creep wave arrives. Not sure it had much effect in this game, but it can be situationally useful.

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

#18

Post by ionwake »

eerikkivistik wrote: post #12
kahlonel wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They overextended in the enemy safelane. Maybe killing the enemy carry is #1 on their priority list :D

Yeah, I was thinking more in the lines of the aftermath, after diving – getting stuck in the forest behind the enemy tower. But you are correct, they seemed hella determined to get that Slark kill!

haha yes I saw that, it seems forest navigation is a strength though, tho sometimes they dont search

Re: OpenAI bots competing against Humans right now

#19

Post by abhiminator »

This is indescribably exciting. Can't wait to see OpenAI Five tear through the human players just like what the single bot did to 'Dendi' -- a professional gamer -- during the International 7 tournament in August last year. [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiOopO9jTZw

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