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Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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Hmm... So here is an interesting thought experiment. Suppose you take a person with some appreciable intelligence (at least average) but no particular knowledge about a certain topic. In this instance, we'll let that topic be psycology. Now we present this person with an unfortunate dilemma. For a particular hypothesis, they observe a significant amount of peer reviewed literature asserting empirical evidence in the…

Usually the solution is to have a graduate student write a review paper. ;)

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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After reading the paper that this article was based on, this article and title feel sensationalized. It's not that the evidence of loss aversion was wrong, or statistically invalid, but just may point to different underlying factors or psychological mechanisms.

However, this is just a couple of researcher's opinions, and tomorrow a response article may come out saying that loss aversion IS supported by evidence.

To me, this is the sign of a healthy science.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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Hmm... So here is an interesting thought experiment. Suppose you take a person with some appreciable intelligence (at least average) but no particular knowledge about a certain topic. In this instance, we'll let that topic be psycology. Now we present this person with an unfortunate dilemma. For a particular hypothesis, they observe a significant amount of peer reviewed literature asserting empirical evidence in the…

In your thoughts experiment, make your refuting paper a slick Netflix documentary and you have the state we live in now.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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post #13

Hmm... So here is an interesting thought experiment. Suppose you take a person with some appreciable intelligence (at least average) but no particular knowledge about a certain topic. In this instance, we'll let that topic be psycology. Now we present this person with an unfortunate dilemma. For a particular hypothesis, they observe a significant amount of peer reviewed literature asserting empirical evidence in the…

In your thoughts experiment, make your refuting paper a slick Netflix documentary and you have the state we live in now.

That's a good point. In some social circles I've observed, it's become fashionable to have the latest contrarian research ready to cite for popsci topics. It seems like the new way to be well-read at a cocktail party.

Documentaries providing new narratives to cleanly refute the old ones - all the while promoting social awareness - seem to be very "in" these days.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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The Ikea effect is a form of loss aversion. This alone shows that someone hasnt done their homework.

"A bird in hand is worth two in the bush" is a popular saying with its equivalent in almost every culture.

Diversification which is studied, recommended and practiced by almost every investor, CEO, child... Is related to loss aversion.

There are many more real life examples of loss aversion.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

#16

Hmm... So here is an interesting thought experiment. Suppose you take a person with some appreciable intelligence (at least average) but no particular knowledge about a certain topic. In this instance, we'll let that topic be psycology. Now we present this person with an unfortunate dilemma. For a particular hypothesis, they observe a significant amount of peer reviewed literature asserting empirical evidence in the…

My bet is that the "mountain of evidence" is more specific and less generalizable than assumed.

The reproducibility "crisis" is not a crisis, it is a fundamental limitation of the scientific method for things that depend on a greater number of variables, on which a lot are unobservable and/or not known.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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Hmm... So here is an interesting thought experiment. Suppose you take a person with some appreciable intelligence (at least average) but no particular knowledge about a certain topic. In this instance, we'll let that topic be psycology. Now we present this person with an unfortunate dilemma. For a particular hypothesis, they observe a significant amount of peer reviewed literature asserting empirical evidence in the…

There is no alternative to 1) or 2).

You either have to follow consensus of the experts, or, to go contrary to consensus, you must understand the consensus well enough to be one of the experts.

Down any other road lies pop-sci nonsense. It's incredibly easy to be a wrong contrarian, when you don't actually understand what you are attacking.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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The Ikea effect is a form of loss aversion. This alone shows that someone hasnt done their homework. "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush" is a popular saying with its equivalent in almost every culture. Diversification which is studied, recommended and practiced by almost every investor, CEO, child... Is related to loss aversion. There are many more real life examples of loss aversion.

Calculated strategies to prevent loss are not loss aversion as psychologists use it. Neither is preventing catastrophic "I spend the rest of life in jail" loss.

Re: Loss aversion is not supported by the evidence

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post #2

psychology as a discipline is not looking so hot these days

This isn’t psychology though, it’s economics. It’s one if the most utilized sciences in the public and political world, and it’s really horrible at predicting anything, at least if you look at the statistics of how rarely it’s right.

Loss aversion, and risk aversion as well, are themselves the economic pseudoscience that are based on the psychology of compulsive habits.

This article doesn’t really depict the research paper though. The author isn’t saying loss aversion isn’t real, just that it’s been over popularized in a way that isn’t founded in evidence. It also doesn’t address the other economic pseudoscience on the field, so you could quite literally write the opposite article as well.

Ironically when it was likey the media representation of “loss aversion” that broke the term to begin with.

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