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Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my point for the most part. The fact that you basically had to provide a ELI5 here on HN for this, shows what a dismal job we, as an industry, have done to educate the larger world as to the best-practice of cloud selection should be. We, on HN, for the most part, can spout off this tribal-domain knowledge because we live it most days. But what would be great is to have these types of nuggest of information,…

Selecting a car is not straightforward at all.

Yes, it really is. Anything you buy new will get you around and be (relatively) safe. If you're buying used, you have to know enough to check the right things or you have to hire a mechanic, but assuming that, for anything a decade old or less it will be the same. If you're talking about value, acceleration, fuel efficiency, etc. that's a matter of taste and your statement is equivalent to, "selecting a wine is not straightforward at all."

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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post #10

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Yes, I also read they would do this to prepare for a Google buy.

That makes little sense for Google. The corporate cultures are very different, GitLab isn't a major money maker and it does nothing for them internally since they use a mono-repo. Cloud platforms can change after acquisitions. If Google wanted them they would have already bought.

> it does nothing for them internally since they use a mono-repo

Completely irrelevant; Google does not version-control their projects substantially with Git. They used Perforce for a long time and now I understand they use some internal, proprietary VCS.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

Why Crimea though? If Russia annexed it, why not block entire Russia?

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Has anyone yet built a tool which will deploy an environment to all three major cloud providers and bench mark them against each?

http://googlecloudplatform.github.io/PerfKitBenchmarker/ can run a ton of different benchmarks on a lot of cloud providers.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

Why Crimea though? If Russia annexed it, why not block entire Russia?

Restricting US companies from doing any business with Russia hurts the US economy too much.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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post #5

Why is it that Microsoft are ok with serving traffic from countries under embargo but Google are not? As far as I know Amazon don't follow the embargo like this with AWS traffic either.

I guess Microsoft does not have the same level of ties with the US military unlike Google

https://futurism.com/google-jk-project-maven-work-military-s...

I am really interested in the real reason too.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

Could they refer customers to proxy service(s) on neutral soil ?

If not, can/should someone post here?

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why Crimea though? If Russia annexed it, why not block entire Russia?

Restricting US companies from doing any business with Russia hurts the US economy too much.

Based on my napkin math using 2017 data, Russia makes up 0.45% of US exports, and 0.43% of imports. So I think there must be more to it than:

> Restricting US companies from doing any business with Russia hurts the US economy too much.

sources:

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

https://www.statista.com/statistics/218255/total-value-of-us...

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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post #61

I'd say it's a positioning move by Gitlab to be a better acquisition target for Google. They might have hoped for Microsoft buying them, but since Microsoft beat Google in getting a hold of Github, they now are realigning. Makes sense.

And this is sad either way since people moved to GitLab likely specifically to seek a still-independent code hosting site. I wish more businesses didn't seem like they were built to be acquired.

I hope you're wrong. :|

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

Why Crimea though? If Russia annexed it, why not block entire Russia?

Such a ban is pointless unless you block every business which does business with Russia and that is not possible. Eastern European countries, ex soviet satellites, etc would have to pick sides and that kind of final decision isn't in our best interests or theirs.

If you only block doing business with Russia, then middlemen in other countries will just have to be go-betweens making a politically inflammatory action (blocking a world power) that wasn't actually effective beyond being offensive.

Blocking Crimea is a symbolic but also mostly ineffective practice done to make a statement. Making that statement about the entire country wouldn't be prudent.

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