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Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by bdcravens »

jhall1468 wrote: post #17
k__ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I also read they would do this to prepare for a Google buy.

That makes little sense for Google. The corporate cultures are very different, GitLab isn't a major money maker and it does nothing for them internally since they use a mono-repo. Cloud platforms can change after acquisitions. If Google wanted them they would have already bought.

Gitlab is more than just git hosting. It provides many pieces of the development workflow (like CI, staging deployments, etc). Moreover, Firebase wasn't much of a money maker either, and took a smaller amount of funding than Gitlab.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by jacques_chester »

Kudos wrote: post #38
jacques_chester wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say they were under embargo. If they were, AWS would not be present in any form.

I don't know what part of my comment you were trying to address then.

On 2nd reading, it doesn't. Overactive pattern matching.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by DannyBee »

Kudos wrote: post #5

Why is it that Microsoft are ok with serving traffic from countries under embargo but Google are not? As far as I know Amazon don't follow the embargo like this with AWS traffic either.

This is a very very weird world of encryption, ITAR, licenses, etc.

The truth is there could be a lot of reasons.

Another weird example: code.google.com was not available in 5 countries due to US state department controls. Github was.

Github was basically ignoring explicit guidance (this is not a statement of intentionality. I'm pretty sure when they started they didn't know and it became a pain to be compliant).

Google went and tried to get licenses (We eventually succeeded for most of them. At the same time, everyone ganged up together to try to convince state/etc to loosen up)

In the meantime, people complained that github was available but code.google.com was not, when the reason was "one was following the law" :)

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

SahAssar wrote: post #16
octosphere wrote: post #6

Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

Do we know if there are people using gitlab.com in North Korea?

Sometimes open source projects tend to link to their git repos.

Hypothetically something to bypass censorship might just point you to a README on a repo for installation details.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by lillecarl »

gaius wrote: post #35
kshitij_libra wrote: post #12

Assuming a buy, gitlab becomes part of gcp offering in the coming future ? :D

GitLab is VC backed, so they have to be looking for an exit/liquidity event, it’s inescapable. Google, Atlassian (roll it into Bitbucket) or Oracle, has to be one of them.

I honestly don't know, what is vc backed, and how does that turn it's destiny into an exit?

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by wereHamster »

octosphere wrote: post #6

Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

Kinda sad that GitLab doesn't point to VPN providers that those users could use to route around this legal issue.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

geofft wrote: post #19
samstave wrote: post #11

Has anyone yet built a tool which will deploy an environment to all three major cloud providers and bench mark them against each?

There are a few "cloud portability" companies, but the fundamental problem with this approach is that cloud providers don't offer the same APIs and pricing models. If all you want is virtual machines and block storage, you can do it, but the answer is that your site is going to be more expensive on any of the providers than if you built it for an architecture that fits your cloud. If you design for the strengths of,…

So, I would actually say that you can do it fairly easily with open source software these days.

If you need apps to be hosted, something like Flynn can host the apps.

If you need Lambda, you can rack your functions natively into OpenFaaS.

The issue is that these systems aren't really 'multi-cloud capable'.

I really tried to put together a 6 node Flynn cluster with 2 in AWS, 2 in GCP and 2 in Azure but the response time in cross-talk was terrible!

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by 1996 »

jacques_chester wrote: post #31
Kudos wrote: post #5

Why is it that Microsoft are ok with serving traffic from countries under embargo but Google are not? As far as I know Amazon don't follow the embargo like this with AWS traffic either.

Amazon does not actually operate any data centres in China. They contract it out, or license their brand name, I am not sure exactly which. I believe to avoid legally squiggliness between Chinese law and laws elsewhere. This causes a lot of annoyances -- lots of features are not available in Chinese "AWS" regions, or they require special treatment. When I've gotten reports about slow, incomplete or stalled downloads…

Get hosting in Hong Kong, with a company connected ideally to China Telecom, China Unicom, PCCW, Pacnet.

Use GeoIP to serve your consumers in mainland from HK.

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