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Cookie policy notifications have ruined user experience on the web

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Re: Cookie policy notifications have ruined user experience on the web

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Are Cookie policy notifications a thing outside of the EU? I always assumed that websites geo target these notifications and life with the small risk of corner cases (like EU customer in the US). If anyone has experience, or numbers I’d find that highly interesting. One datapoint from Germany: We were largely unaffected by cookie notifications before GDPR, because of a local law (TMG) that superseded the EU “cookie l…

The « funniest » part is that Spiegel probably made several news article about GDPR. In France it’s the same. Sad thing for them, they won’t be able to pretend they didn’t knew (which will be a good lesson taught)

Heise is even worse. They covered GDPR extensively, yet don't do any notifications on their own websites.

Re: Cookie policy notifications have ruined user experience on the web

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It hasn't been pushed very hard, but the new 'chat' feature - on a website that already had private messaging - strikes me as a fundamental misunderstanding of what reddit's value is, one bad enough that it makes me doubt for the future design of the site as a whole.

Agreed. It's only a matter of time before they get rid of the opt-out of the redesign. When that happens, I'll likely quit. I find the redesign absolutely impossible to use.

It certainly doesn't help that they've apparently adopted the game development definition of a 'beta'. (i.e. an alpha that you roll out to all users.) There are several core features of the existing site which simply haven't been implemented yet - I consider that unacceptable for an all-users beta, especially in a redesign where those features are expected.

Visiting a user page and checking 'top' simply doesn't work, with a note that it will someday. And that's made even worse because the new 'hot' on user pages has some sort of godawful logic that only shows a handful of posts from a given thread. This is painfully apparent with AMAs, where visiting the AMA account and checking all posts is a standard action - after trashing the AMA infrastructure on the business side (the Victoria mess), the same thing is now happening on the tech side.

The new redesign requires every sub to build a new theme just to maintain existing functionality, and is apparently harder to theme for also. I suspect it's an attempt at homogeneity to be more welcoming to new users, but the practical consequence is that sidebars (rules, links, info) have simply vanished. Which means more work for moderators, less info for visitors, and occasionally complete dysfunction for subs that used the sidebar for something important.

And, of course, the redesign is nakedly anti-user in much the same way as the recent TechCrunch one. It's designed to make sponsored-content ads harder to distinguish, sacrifice content space for site features space, and promote time-on-site over user choice and experience.

I retreated to a handful of low-use, well-moderated subs quite a while ago, and with the site changes tarring even those I'll probably give up soon also.

Re: Cookie policy notifications have ruined user experience on the web

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They’re terrible. Who are we kidding, no one has backed out of the website after seeing one of these notices.

I back out of them all time. Particularly the egregious dark-pattern ones: "Click this giant green button to let us track you out the wazoo, or click this tiny misleadingly-named link to drag you through a six-hour hell of settings dialogs which will drop you out without actually changing anything the instant it thinks it can get away with it."

The vast majority of people are not backing out. They're instinctively clicking that button to get it out of the way, it's the new banner blindness.

Re: Cookie policy notifications have ruined user experience on the web

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I figured, but maintaining that is such a waste of human life and parsing the list is a waste of my CPU time. Since no one on either side of the fence wants the notices to exist, web developers could just use a de facto standard element class and ad blockers can add a simple rule.

Is it a waste of human life? From a utilitarian perspective, it’s easy to see how one dev coding for an hour could save cumulatively many hours otherwise wasted by users clicking through GDPR/cookie pop-ups. From a purely “time invested” vs. “time saved” perspective, maintaining Adblock lists is likely a net benefit.

Ad/tracker block lists, yes, totally worth the effort because we have to fight against people that want to use our own machines against us. For the cookie notice, we're all on the same side, so we can make it easier for everyone.

Re: Cookie policy notifications have ruined user experience on the web

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Agreed. It's only a matter of time before they get rid of the opt-out of the redesign. When that happens, I'll likely quit. I find the redesign absolutely impossible to use.

It certainly doesn't help that they've apparently adopted the game development definition of a 'beta'. (i.e. an alpha that you roll out to all users.) There are several core features of the existing site which simply haven't been implemented yet - I consider that unacceptable for an all-users beta, especially in a redesign where those features are expected. Visiting a user page and checking 'top' simply doesn't work…

Completely agree, with all of it. I pretty much only use it for a few things that I have interest in, and don't really venture outside of there. Even then, I've tried to limit my posting and frequenting of the site; there are some weeks where the only thing I'll post is the weekly one on a sub I help moderate.

I've even gone to the point of deleting the app on my phone, and, if I have to, I'll open it in mobile browser (and deal with their shit) to check messages/etc in the morning. I need to start trying to wean myself away from it completely, if only to help kill off that online identity.

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