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Have you ever used a calculator, and wondered if you'd punched in the operands correctly? I have. And so I do the calculation again.
With a scrolling terminal, you can see (and check) the operands on the previous line(s).
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I think your criticism misses the mark. [1] You're answering an article that starts with a 45-second video of Slack opening (surely the worst offender among modern apps) with something about latencies measured in thousandths of a second. [2] As Nielsen is focused on web apps and applications, this advice is less applicable to UI provided by the OS that you interact with all day in presumably familiar ways. Note that…
> 45-second video of Slack opening (surely the worst offender among modern apps I hate to defend Slack as it's far from snappy, but comparing it to a console app seems hardly fair. I wonder how much of it's slowness is due to network requests? I could make the argument that git is slow because when I clone a large repository it takes a while.
Yes! I am so glad somebody called out the UI animations! The one in 1Password bugs me every time, I don't use Spaces because it takes too long for the animations to play out. There are more examples. Every time a programmer adds an animation, a settings option should also be added to "disable animations". Advanced users will love you for it!
History shows us that consumers value good UX, of which animation is a key component. The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, but it was the fist one to take UX as seriously as the hardware.
As for the examples:
- Slack: Yes, it takes forever to load and I hate that, the real problem is performance, not the animation. Would it be better if no animation happened and didn't inform the user about about what's going on? Keep in mind that the animation also serves to inform the user that it hasn't "frozen", so a still interstitial would be a regression.
- Spaces: The animation tells the user what is going on! Having the entire screen change instantly would be confusing for the vast majority of users.
I do value choice though, so perhaps there should be a setting for power users to disable/minimize them.
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> 45-second video of Slack opening (surely the worst offender among modern apps I hate to defend Slack as it's far from snappy, but comparing it to a console app seems hardly fair. I wonder how much of it's slowness is due to network requests? I could make the argument that git is slow because when I clone a large repository it takes a while.
I do not see how that comparison is unfair. Terminal IRC clients, for example, accomplish the same exact functionality as Slack in a curses UI in a vastly faster way.
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I think your criticism misses the mark. [1] You're answering an article that starts with a 45-second video of Slack opening (surely the worst offender among modern apps) with something about latencies measured in thousandths of a second. [2] As Nielsen is focused on web apps and applications, this advice is less applicable to UI provided by the OS that you interact with all day in presumably familiar ways. Note that…
> 45-second video of Slack opening (surely the worst offender among modern apps I hate to defend Slack as it's far from snappy, but comparing it to a console app seems hardly fair. I wonder how much of it's slowness is due to network requests? I could make the argument that git is slow because when I clone a large repository it takes a while.
The git equivalent would be if you had to wait for git to do a fetch/pull every time you ran "ls" on a git-controlled folder. It would be insane, and no one would use git (or any other version control).
I'm switching away from macOS to Linux with the i3 window manager for precisely this reason. But all of his criticisms of terminals are spot on: no multimedia, no support for anything other than monospaced fonts, etc. Lord, somebody give me a terminal program that produces laid-out text and can show inline video.
I realized that people love Slack because it has introduced them to the CLI paradigm of computing for the first time. CLI is so much more efficient and powerful if users can somehow be incentivized to put in the time and effort to become productive, which Slack has focused on a lot. As inefficient and silly as it may seem to us developers, Slack with it's endless command based integrations has succeed wildly at that where nothing else has so far.
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I do not see how that comparison is unfair. Terminal IRC clients, for example, accomplish the same exact functionality as Slack in a curses UI in a vastly faster way.
But somehow there's all these people that want to use Slack over Irssi.
* DCC is still unreliable.
* There is no audio connection option, which is quite popular in 2018.
* Channel history management is ad hoc
* Authentication is done in band, in plain text.
* "secured" channels rely on this bad authentication, and if they don't (perhaps electing to manage it themselves) network flaws can completely steal your channel.
* IRC isn't even particularly open source, many servers and networks have private patches that are not shared publicly.
IRC isn't better than slack. I agree with you that it's confusing why people suggest that it ought to be.
Also, most IRC networks are controlled by entities even more inscrutable than Slack's executive team and board. I can go look up who runs slack, I cannot actually find good details on who runs any given IRC network. I have no idea what I'm dealing with or how they're using my data. I have no legal recourse if I do discover bad behavior, and I'm forced by the ossified protocol to keep using their insecure authentication mechanisms which make abuse trivial.
Yes! I am so glad somebody called out the UI animations! The one in 1Password bugs me every time, I don't use Spaces because it takes too long for the animations to play out. There are more examples. Every time a programmer adds an animation, a settings option should also be added to "disable animations". Advanced users will love you for it!
You can disable every animation in OS X itself via the command line (defaults write). I put them all in a shell script that I run on new installs. You may be out of luck with 1Password.