As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume

Post by sandworm101 » Fri, Aug 03, 2018, 4:25 AM UTC

RileyJames wrote: post #188

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>> The company declined to detail how some place names came about, though some appear to have resulted from mistakes by researchers, rebrandings by real estate agents — or just outright fiction. Every lawyer knows what is happening. Copyright 101 - you cannot copyright facts, a big deal for mapmakers. Google is pulling data from a map created by someone else. They are quiet about it because they do not want whoever o…

Have you tried registering with “Google My Business”? I update a local businesses address though that (when they moved location) and it was updated on the maps immediately (possibly a few days delay at most). Who refused you? What other method did you try?

Post by gt_ » Fri, Aug 03, 2018, 6:11 AM UTC

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> You can’t change my username. But what if they could? The issue here isn’t that Google got the name wrong, but that they actively chose a new one and could change it to the new one because the public depends on a private entity’s map system and that private entity is able to manipulate the representation in their own private interest. > If the name “The East Cut” either, but they already had one and preferred it. I…

If Google were doing something malicious that caused real and important harm, I'd probably agree with you that what they were doing was wrong. I don't see the harm here, and I don't see malice. They weren't doing this capriciously, they were doing this at the behest of a nonprofit created by the community.

Post by xbmcuser » Fri, Aug 03, 2018, 6:31 AM UTC

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I deal with this with one of the web sites I maintain. I think, as noted in the article, that it seems Google sometimes uses names from advertisements as if they are canonical. In my case, the city in question puts out a very specific, very legally defined map of each neighborhood, and has for more than a century. But real estate agents make up names for the neighborhoods, or fudge the boundaries to improve selling p…

Post by dmurray » Fri, Aug 03, 2018, 9:35 AM UTC

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Google maps's districts in Dublin are all over the place. Looking around the city centre at a certain magnification I can see names nobody ever uses, or that refer to individual buildings or tiny areas, shown as if they describe entire areas of the city. Maryland, Hybreasal, Cathal Brugha Barracks - roughly where I'd expect to see signs for The Coombe, Kilmainham, and Harold's Cross. If I zoom out, labels for Kilmain…

Could they be the official but unused townlands areas?

Post by corporateslaver » Fri, Aug 03, 2018, 1:06 PM UTC

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