I use Lubuntu as my only OS on a Dell Latitude 5590 and I like the new direction they pronounced in their site a few days ago. I have never seen Lubuntu as a low end alternative, but as a capable OS that does not get into my way. Lubuntu's panel works without glitches on the side of screen allowing me use better the vertical screen size. The LXDE Lubuntu theme combined with Faenza icons is also very nice looking. I am sure LXQt will keep up same vision and the new direction matches my needs exactly. What I need is a smooth upgrade path when time comes to move to LXQt and that it support the features of LXDE I use now. I wish to LXQt and Lubuntu teams all the best to keep up their good work and I am looking forward for the new software.
Lubuntu is taking a new direction
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Re: Lubuntu is taking a new direction
#182As an exercise, I threw OpenBSD and GNUStep on a machine the other day. I wouldn’t say GNUStep provides the best Free/Open desktop, but I want to believe that it could. The thing is, many of the modern Linux desktops seem to be heavily wedded to a lot of dconf and systemd infrastructure. OpenBSD has managed to build analogs for enough of the heavily Linux-centric infrastructure that Gnome 3 depends on, but man it’s c…
GNUstep could be SO much more. But the interface is stuck in 1993. And the maintainers don't want to do anything to modernize. it.
I'd love to switch to a GNUstep powered OS (maybe with Ubuntu underneath), but its just not good enough yet.
Re: Lubuntu is taking a new direction
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep that's a great point, maybe they are not communicating what the unique benefits of Lubuntu will be in the future, or maybe they don't actually know what they'll be. Right now Lubuntu's niche is really clear for me, if I want a lightweight, general purpose distro I use Xubuntu. If I want a really lightweight, general purpose distro I use Lubuntu. (A step beyond that if I wanted "so damn light there are probably a…
Re: Puppy and Damn Small: the former's still maintained, while the latter (last I checked) is not. Another one to add to your list of tiny Linux distros is Tiny Core Linux, which is indeed tiny while being fully graphical.
Great to hear Puppy is still being developed. I'm downloading it now!
I see Puppy's shifted their idea of "lightweight" too, I recall the ISO being 4-5x smaller last time (2007ish).
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#184I don't understand the rationale behind a separate group/committee/website/idea for the same distro with different defaults. I worked with the Antergos team, a team of 4 people, to write a distro that let you pick and choose everything, from DE to browsers. While I've mainly faded away they are still hard at it. In short, if we can support nearly every DE with 4 volunteers, what are these *buntus spending their resou…
Antergos most emphatically isn't a distro it's just an installer for arch Linux and quite frankly a poorly designed one that does not always actually work. After the installer runs if it actually works you aren't left with something much different from a normal arch installation. The actual distro developers have a lot of work to do as far as assembling a wide range of components and often writing their own like pack…
Well that’s mean. But I have to agree that it doesn’t actually work 99% of the time for me. It certainly is easier to install arch than it is trying to debug cnchi. Arch requires so much typing, but at least the installation is reliable.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
>but I can say that we have the same thing happening with 16.04 Yes, 16.04 (unity 7) is peak desktop for years to come. Nothing else works quite as well for me. Luckily, you can use unity 7 with 18.04 without too much friction.
What do you use as a file manager? Ubuntu's built in one lacks the basic functions that one might expect from Windows Explorer or the Finder (e.g., the ability to rename multiple files, open folder as path in terminal, mount SMB shares, see file previews).
Lubuntu's 'PCMan File Manager' does all those and some more except for renaming multiple files.
'rename' [1] is a good way to do it anyway.
[1] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/prename.1.ht...
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It's proof that Ubuntu is a terrible platform for customization. Most other distros don't have that split - whether it is ArchLinux, Fedora, CentOS, NixOS, and what have you.
Well Fedora and CentOS are both more or less RedHat splits surely.
CentOS isn't even a split. CentOS is RHEL with different distribution without the trademarks - it's binary-compatible and documentation-compatible, and matches versions patch-for-patch.
Fedora is more like a split - it's the people who like RHEL but want a faster release cycle.
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#187How about we use a raspberry pi as a definition of an "old" machine? It's the most popular low powered system. Which distribution would you use?
Linaro and Raspbian both are based off LXDE if I recall correctly.
Wonder if they will also (have already?) adopt LXQt?
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#188While it's true that you can run plain-old Ubuntu on a 10-year-old machine without problems, the growth in popularity of smaller ARM processors (rpi etc) also creates demand for a lightweight linux distro. When I read the title I assumed that Lubuntu's new direction was to move towards offering better support for such devices. Guess they're going the opposite direction...too bad.
I wonder if that factored into the discussion. I'm also hearing a lot of buzz about major OS (Windows, macOS) supporting ARM as a consumer platform in the near future.
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#189I always loved Qt as a developer and hated it as a user. Every app/desktop environment written in it seem buggy and expensive on RAM. On the other side, I always loved GTK apps and their feel/design, but never got to make anything big myself in GTK. There are other points to this debate than RAM/Resources: Looks and feel, philosophy, feature bloatedness, etc.
I used to love GTK apps, but GTK3 has become almost unusable. I used XFCE for years, but now it's switched to GTK3 I've had to abandon it for LXDE (GTK2 version). Even something as simple as the XFCE text editor (Mousepad) now has pointless animations that you can't turn off and it constantly flickers unless you turn on compositing, which is useless latency increasing bloat. Everything about GTK3 feels like it was de…
The "Experienced users on desktops --> Morons on phones" trend seems to be inescapable, especially in web design.
Re: Lubuntu is taking a new direction
#190I don't want to come across as ungrateful but I'm not very happy about this. I haven't looked into the reasons for this change but I'm sure there are some compelling ones to make such a big change. LXDE based Lubuntu struck the perfect balance (for me) between: - Being minimal and lightweight - but works out of the box with enough batteries included - tons of community resources due to being a ~buntu - very, very cus…
> very, very customizable I don't know where you're getting that. I like LXDE well enough. The only laptop I have running Linux runs Lubuntu. I would not call it "very" customizable. I can't easily rearrange the menu (which I blame the retarded .desktop file standard for), I can't add my own menus (to my knowledge), I can't change the application menus to be mac-style top-of-screen menus like I could in KDE 3, etc.
I agree that LXDE isn't the first choice when you're thinking about customizing your desktop (check out reddit.com/r/unixporn if you're into this sort of a thing).
I meant that from a point of view of comparing it to others like gtk3, unity, cinnamon etc for some specific features that I find useful.
Of course, not all distros will lend themselves to all types of customizations easily and customizability, at least to some degree, is relative.
With that in mind, yes, maybe I should tone it down to 'customizable,' instead of 'very, very customizable.'