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I feel like I have to say this, even if people get it already. Walk before you run. Bare metal is a LOT harder to manage because, well, hardware fails. We hear the demand, for sure, but vSphere represents walking (and has a lot of customers, too :)
Sure, I get why the decision was made. But, I don't buy the hardware failure argument, because the same is true of running a vsphere installation in the first place. vsphere migrates VMs to other machines when the hardware fails, but, analogously, the kube scheduler moves pods to other machines when they fail as well. You have to worry about disk failures in both cases. You have to worry about keeping your vsphere's…
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Re: GKE On-Prem Alpha
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Ouch. Way to bury the lede! Is this ever going to be a bare-metal thing? Like probably many others, I'm not really interested in doing on-prem virtualization... kubernetes is interesting to me because containers are a better abstraction than virtual machines in the first place. Why add a virtualization layer if you don't have to? (I get that it makes your life easier as the developer of this product, but having to ru…
There are definitely enterprises looking to move away from virtualization. We have that in mind. We are exploring additional options, such as bare metal support, based on customer demand. Send me an email (karangoel [at] google) if you'd be interested in talking more about bare metal.
Re: GKE On-Prem Alpha
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What is the value prop then, for someone who already runs open source Kubernetes on-prem? Why should he pay extra for GKE on-prem?
Excellent question. GKE On-Prem is a Google provided, validated and supported distribution of Kubernetes and extensions that offer a GKE-like experience in your on-premise datacenter. It makes it easy to install and upgrade Kubernetes and provides access to GCP services such as monitoring, logging, metrics, security and auditing for your on-premise installation. It is the foundational component of the Cloud Services…
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#84Hey Weston here from the GKE On-Prem team. Wifi is spotty at the conference but I'll try to answer questions as they come in.
What does this mean, if anything, for PKS - i thought that was a joint Google/Pivotal/VMware effort?
Re: GKE On-Prem Alpha
#85Hey GKE team, can you give any details about how this works? What does it assume/require from the underlying infrastructure?
We're going to give a breakout session that goes into more depth on Wednesday @ 4:35pm. IO244. Some quick details: It's a bit of a split between what GKE runs and what the customer runs. Alpha runs on vSphere 6.5 and we're packing up a Google-hardened OS in much the same way we package GKE for GCP. A lot of the integrations for things like networking and storage will be coming from partners. We'll also have remote mg…
Re: GKE On-Prem Alpha
#86Does it provide a way to install k8s nodes on a VMware cluster ?
GKE On-Prem is a full K8s installation - so nodes and masters. We will support vSphere 6.5 in Alpha.
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#87This is awesome! One of my problems with showing clients the ability of GKE is having to pay a lot of money to demonstrate. How complete is this? Can I do the usual ingress/LB annotations for GKE and apply them to an on-prem instance?
Since this runs on vSphere presumably it will cost far far more than public GKE.
Re: GKE On-Prem Alpha
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ouch. Way to bury the lede! Is this ever going to be a bare-metal thing? Like probably many others, I'm not really interested in doing on-prem virtualization... kubernetes is interesting to me because containers are a better abstraction than virtual machines in the first place. Why add a virtualization layer if you don't have to? (I get that it makes your life easier as the developer of this product, but having to ru…
There are definitely enterprises looking to move away from virtualization. We have that in mind. We are exploring additional options, such as bare metal support, based on customer demand. Send me an email (karangoel [at] google) if you'd be interested in talking more about bare metal.
so what is the model for bare metal with GKE on-prem. The reason is for VSPHERE 6.5 is additional cost (license per cores to VMWARE and VCENTER license) which we want to avoid to use bare metal only.
Re: GKE On-Prem Alpha
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are definitely enterprises looking to move away from virtualization. We have that in mind. We are exploring additional options, such as bare metal support, based on customer demand. Send me an email (karangoel [at] google) if you'd be interested in talking more about bare metal.
+1 for Bare Metal support.