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France bans smartphone use in schools

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Re: France bans smartphone use in schools

#3
Surprised they weren't banned already. How can a teacher droning about valence levels possibly compete with instagram feeds, and much more so for younger kids.

Possibly even, aspects of smartphone use should be treated as a potential health risk, in the same ways as alcohol, tobacco, sugar, etc. (though not all of those are treated appropriately yet)

Re: France bans smartphone use in schools

#4
> “In reality, the ban has already been made. I don’t know a single teacher in this country that allows the use of phones in class.”

Not allowing kids to use smartphones during class is a huge difference than not allowing them at all in school. Cell phones are huge part of people's lives, whether they like it or not.

Re: France bans smartphone use in schools

#5
To be clear: phones have been banned in most French schools for years, but faculty had no legal authorization to actually touch the phone or look at it to ensure that it was off.

I haven't read the actual text of the law, but I believe that it gives faculty the authorization to do just that.

Re: France bans smartphone use in schools

#7
I'm really not sure how I feel about highschoolers having phones.

On the one hand, not having one seems like it could cause isolation and practical/logistical problems.

On the other hand, the whole point of most of the smartphone ecosystem is to manipulate people and these people are especially prone to that.

Highschoolers therefore should be only allowed to use completely free (as in freedom) community maintained software/OS/hardware devices.

Re: France bans smartphone use in schools

#9
Typical prohibitionist mindset. Lots of people use X, we don't like X, we ban X instead of understanding how to properly and moderately integrate X into our lives. Smartphones and tablets are GREAT learning devices. If we keep blaming the ineptitude of teachers on devices the quality of education will never progress.

EDIT: part of the education process is to teach kids how to use and not abuse these devices and when it's appropriate to use them for entertainment. Telling them "you can play Fortnite for an hour after you finish this math challenge" is way better than "you can't play Fornite at school!". I remember having the same policy applied for when I was in school and we would play Pokemon TCG. When it was banned we would play in secrecy during class, when they gave up and allowed us to play during recess we stopped playing during class. It's just common sense.

Re: France bans smartphone use in schools

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post #7

I'm really not sure how I feel about highschoolers having phones. On the one hand, not having one seems like it could cause isolation and practical/logistical problems. On the other hand, the whole point of most of the smartphone ecosystem is to manipulate people and these people are especially prone to that. Highschoolers therefore should be only allowed to use completely free (as in freedom) community maintained so…

How about educating kids on the proper use of such powerful tools, including the concepts of FLOSS (and, in general, how to question and think critically)? TV is not the problem, having more kids watching Jersey Shore rather than some good documentaries is.
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