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Re: Facebook’s New Message to WhatsApp: Make Money

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Remember when WhatsApp required a subscription? One of the first changes made by Facebook after purchasing WhatsApp was to make it available for free. And now they're complaining they can't milk it enough? Oh dear. I know that a percentage of WhatsApp users would stop using the app if they started requiring a payment again –because apparently paying $1 per year for using an application on your $999 phone is outrageou…

Was it a subscription? I thought it was $1 to purchase(iOS).

$1 per year

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Aside from Signal and Telegram, is there any worthy alternative?

That depends on what it is you don't like about those two. I presume phone number identification and non-standard encryption?

Encryption and ease-of-adoption. I have no troubles testing 20 apps, but my family needs something really easy to use.

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Almost everybody I know has at least 2 messaging apps installed on their phone. What's to stop people start migrating to Signal/Telegram/Viber/Keybase/etc.. once WhatsApp starts displaying ads?

Network effect.

My anecdote - out of, say, 50 people I know, two have Telegram. The rest use a combination of iMessage, Facebook messenger, and WhatsApp.

22yo male.

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Aside from Signal and Telegram, is there any worthy alternative?

I've just defaulted back to iMessage for pretty much everything - not an ideal option if you don't mostly talk to people with Apple devices though.

Thanks, but we have a mixed ecosystem, and Apple vendor lock-in is not an option. Plus, their current pro-privacy stance seems phony.

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Almost everybody I know has at least 2 messaging apps installed on their phone. What's to stop people start migrating to Signal/Telegram/Viber/Keybase/etc.. once WhatsApp starts displaying ads?

I think you are an outlier in that regard. Almost nobody I know is using any other messaging app instead of WhatsApp, and I just graduated out of University so my social circle consists of a lot of fresh engineering grads. It is hard for me to convince even my batchmates to install signal. I think people don't want to install anything else as none of their contacts are on any other platform.

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Almost everybody I know has at least 2 messaging apps installed on their phone. What's to stop people start migrating to Signal/Telegram/Viber/Keybase/etc.. once WhatsApp starts displaying ads?

Network effect. My anecdote - out of, say, 50 people I know, two have Telegram. The rest use a combination of iMessage, Facebook messenger, and WhatsApp. 22yo male.

Telegram here has the reputation of a chat app you might use to hide naughty online liaisons from your wife. Like something indexed to an alternative identity.

(So: like what the internet used to be like in olden times. But still.)

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Aside from Signal and Telegram, is there any worthy alternative?

E-mail. It's pretty amazing.

It is, and I've discussed how it will be around and strong 10 years from now, when many other current platforms are past dead.

But it's not an option for the fast-pace, short-text, short-lived communication, thread style conversations. No, Gmail lock-in is not an option.

Re: Facebook’s New Message to WhatsApp: Make Money

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"Messaging service WhatsApp, which has a user base of roughly 1.5 billion, is set to start showing ads in its Status feature next year" Well, monetize through ads is something expected in any free platform that does not belong to a non-profit organization. It's just a matter of time and implementation. Here in Mexico WhatsApp is huge, even as a default B2C channel for a lot of small businesses.

> Well, monetize through ads is something expected in any free platform that does not belong to a non-profit organization.

You could also, you know, charge money for the service.

Re: Facebook’s New Message to WhatsApp: Make Money

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Almost everybody I know has at least 2 messaging apps installed on their phone. What's to stop people start migrating to Signal/Telegram/Viber/Keybase/etc.. once WhatsApp starts displaying ads?

the same reason people didnt switch off facebook when they started showing ads. Or instagram. Or Twitter.

the network.

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