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Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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You should still be able to do this with a cheap RTL-SDR dongle (<$20) and a laptop, though you will probably look pretty conspicuous to the flight attendants

I think there are FAA or airline rules against passengers on commercial flights using aviation radios -- and those rules might include aviation radios that you synthesize yourself. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/8939/can-i-fly-... (It seems that the rules are meant to avoid having unexpected devices onboard using aviation-related RF energy, rather than to prevent passengers from monitoring aircraft comm…

A passive receiver with absolutely zero emission would allow to listen to pilots communications from the seat and would be easy to build. Listening to the tower once in air unfortunately would not be possible (as with any radio operated in seat) - an external antenna would be necessary for that. The problem with any custom built receiver is however its appearance: a strange electronic device which would probably raise alerts at any inspection, so the diy solution would hardly be doable for use in flight.

But if one can get an old analog FM radio, something can be done eaasily. The air radio band (118 to 136 MHz) is just above the FM broadcast band (76 or 88 to 108 MHz), and airliners use AM modulation rather than FM, but old consumer radio FM demodulators demodulate AM as well, so all one needs to do is retuning the radio on airband frequencies. This can be done by altering some values in the frontend and local oscillator LC stages, but sometimes is enough just to widen the oscillator coil to tune the radio a few MHz up. Nobody should object if you listen to an old FM pocket radio with headphones from your seat.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=5kvxjNeWMxs

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I developed a fear of flying in my late 20s. My doctor prescribed me a low dose of Xanax specifically for flying. I take it about 1-1.5 hours before takeoff and it significantly reduces my anxiety about flying. All the techniques listed here are helpful and may solve your problem in the long term. But honestly there's nothing wrong with taking medicine, especially if it's just when you fly and it makes the experience…

This. Anti anxiety medications work. Save your self-behavior-altering energy for things that matter more in life. Xanax will also help you sleep on flights.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I loved flying as a kid, and I loved being high in the ski lift. But as soon as I had my young kid on me on the high ski lift all rationality left me completely.

I am not afraid of much, I have sky dived (freaky but sooo fun), rock climbed (scared spitless, but did it) and crazy roller coasters (love the thrill). But as one of my kids was on a crazy coaster I was as afraid as they were.

Maybe seeing them being safe and feeling safe themselves, and seeing them in control (as they got older) is what helped we deal with the uncontrollable terror that struck me when they would shake the chair or lean over the edge.

My own fears, not a problem, I can face them all day long, fear of my kid getting hurt? Logic over emotions, just gotta face it repeatedly until it goes away? (that's the only thing that's ever helped me truly get over fears.)

Edit: This is a trite phrase, but... "the difference between fear and excitement is a smile". It's a little lame, but some people are adrenaline junkies and going to the edge is actually "fun" for them. When I "know" everything is ok, but don't "feel" it, I remember this phrase and try to channel my inner adrenaline-junky. It work often than not, and at least gives me something to do.

I have learned to actually enjoy some things this way. Silly, but when you are out of options, sometimes the ridiculous becomes the only option left.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I had a fear of flying, which I overcame completely by accident: I started playing a realistic flight sim for a while. Because it was realistic, I had to learn the basics of how to actually fly a plane. It taught me two things: what some of the noises, the vibrations, and the movements were; and how hard it is to actually crash a plane. Once you made it in the air, you'll want to try crashing your plane in the game (…

> It taught me two things: what some of the noises, the vibrations, and the movements were; and how hard it is to actually crash a plane. Once you made it in the air, you'll want to try crashing your plane in the game (explosions! fun!), and it will be undoubtedly harder than you imagine. It's a good thing you didn't try flying a virtual helicopter then, those things are deathtraps. I have some experience flying the…

Also, landing on an aircraft carrier, flying the space shuttle, and piloting the SR71 are pretty dangerous. All of which have nothing to do with OP's flight anxiety.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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This should actually be reassuring to you, if anything! Planes can maintain altitude, fly long distances, and land safely even in the event of both engines failing or blowing up. Also, when you hear them power down near landing time, they're still actually running and providing power, but are no longer providing thrust.

Miracle on the Hudson?

Gimli Glider more like.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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I had a fear of flying, which I overcame completely by accident: I started playing a realistic flight sim for a while. Because it was realistic, I had to learn the basics of how to actually fly a plane. It taught me two things: what some of the noises, the vibrations, and the movements were; and how hard it is to actually crash a plane. Once you made it in the air, you'll want to try crashing your plane in the game (…

Similarly, you could also read about the physics of flight. I've been reading "Understanding Flight" ( http://a.co/dSqr2dS ) and enjoying it. Imagine I asked you "Here's a 100 kg object, and it can produce 10 kg of thrust. Can it fly?" It seems miraculous that the answer is yes. I had always known this, but thinking about it anew was amazing to me.

I think this is a common thing in therapy against fears;

the fear will decrease once the thing you are afraid of becomes more clear/detailed (as opposed to vague.)

Like in all thriller/horror movies, the less you see of the "scary creature" (in a dark place, behind other objects blocking your view, etc.) , the more your imagination will process the scary thoughts and amplify things.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are FAA or airline rules against passengers on commercial flights using aviation radios -- and those rules might include aviation radios that you synthesize yourself. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/8939/can-i-fly-... (It seems that the rules are meant to avoid having unexpected devices onboard using aviation-related RF energy, rather than to prevent passengers from monitoring aircraft comm…

A passive receiver with absolutely zero emission would allow to listen to pilots communications from the seat and would be easy to build. Listening to the tower once in air unfortunately would not be possible (as with any radio operated in seat) - an external antenna would be necessary for that. The problem with any custom built receiver is however its appearance: a strange electronic device which would probably rais…

You'd be surprised. I thought the same when I brought 2 arduinos in a makeshift carboard box in my bag and had wires sticking out all over from the breadboard.

Not a word, nor even a wayward look.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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Sadly, very recently a friend of mine's therapist suggested he overcome his fear of flying and having less control.

Granted it is a small plane, but it crashed. Of my friends, 1 is paralysed and the other is dead. The pilot is dead too.

I've always wanted to take some aerial photos, but now I'm having second thoughts about being in a small plane. I have no reservations about getting on a jumbo jet though.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome fear of flying?

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Here's what did the trick from me: learn how a plane works. In detail, every piece. What are flaps, what are ailerons, what is lift, etc. etc. Read all the Vanity Fair articles explaining famous crashes. When you understand it all, it demystifies flying, and it's a lot easier to feel comfortable in the air. I've almost entirely lost my fear of flying since, even in turbulence. I take about 100 flights a year and 150k…

I could add to that; Watch Air Crash Investigations (also under the name Mayday). It's amazing to learn how everything works and has dual failsafe systems, most crashes result in changes in aviation regulations and/or service bulletins for the airlines. Then think how many car crashes there are. Fun fact: on average 2 people die every day in an air crash. Wow... guess how many die in car crashes per day? How do you f…

Air Crash Investigation is great. It's like a true-crime show for engineering.

What you gather after watching dozens of episodes is that almost all accidents happened many years ago before modern planes and regulations and/or due to an exceedingly rare confluence of events.

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